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How many times did Steward say a track was going to get some body killed? Also his bad mouthing of Goodyear, to me its same dam thing Theres to many other tracks that be more than happy and do a lot better job of hosting the 4 crown then Eldora. :26:

Why is everyone going after “steward” when this was a USAC decision?

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Along with free speech comes the consequences of what you say.....go into work tomorrow and use your free speech to tell your boss he runs a ****** and unsafe business and he should be embarrassed.....let me know how that free speech works out for you :)

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In the famous words of Jack Hewitt. FLQASOB. They wear that shirt that says authority. They can kiss my d**k

https://youtu.be/2tAJtnl_1bQ

It always amazes me when someone wants to share their knowledge/opinions about this sport, but doesn’t know how Tony’s last name is spelled???

I mean his name is EVERYWHERE in print, and tv, yet some supposed fan/participant (?) can’t even spell his simple last name correctly??.... Especially when it is nearly impossible to not see, or even hear his name pronounced correctly just by spending a few seconds of attention to the sport your supposedly following.

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Go back to Canada, I hear they are hiring spelling police.

Bad move USAC. If you're going to ban him I guess you'll have to ban me too. I don't pull punches when it comes to ****** track prep and neither does he. There is so much of it these days it's hard to sit back and say nothing, yet most fans just sit there in silence because there are told not to criticize anything. Ballou is a true hero to many of us old school fans. He likes a good track with some character and so do I. I was going to go to Terre Haute since they've been prepping the track so much better after we complained so much about sprint week, but I think I'll observe my self imposed ban and find something else to do. Didn't USAC suspend Steve Butler too and he never came back? Way to go there guys.

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Am I the only one who is sitting here thinking this is a perfect example of the world we are living in today? This is a really good example of the culture of entitlement we see all the time. If you work for someone or you join a club/organization they will have rules to follow. When you clearly act like an ass or break those rules OVER and OVER there will be consequences. It's great he spoke his mind I guess but you have to know that it may end your association with that party. The crazy part (like this deal) is people are shocked at the repercussions and are trying to defend it. I can say with 100% certainty that Robert wasn't the only one who didn't like the track on Saturday (or the other umpteen times he complained) they just chose to handle it the smart and respectful way. I realize the people who are backing him tonight aren't going to understand what I'm saying. I guess that returns me to my original point. This is the world we live in.

Who is this Steward guy??

But it is also a very “Soft” world today. People/Organizations get butt hurt very easily nowadays. I have a word for them, but I would get suspended from this site if I posted it. Sigh......

Because his money and track leverage pushed the decision.Not that hard to figure out.

USAC you got this wrong in my opinion. You just did more damage the the sport of sprint car racing than Ballou's comments ever would have done.His loud mouthing off to Tony would have quit stinking like a bad f4rt in a couple days but you have stirred it up for more than it was worth..You have to remember this came a few days after sprint car racing lost a true ambassador to the sprint racing community in Greg Hodnett. So emotions are high and words do sting right now but let it go. Drop the suspension BS and lets move on .Let this serve as a warning to Ballou and the USAC racers for future reprimands. Maybe the drivers and car owners need to come up with a process to air their concerns with powerful track owners that in the future will serve as the GROUP voice and not single out one driver or individual as the trouble maker.
I will not be at the BURG this weekend as I figure if BALLOU is suspended then so am I because I am a Ballou fan.
FREE BALLOU.

I assume the USAC dictatorship does not include a due process procedure where as a participant can appeal a suspension. Oh how silly on my part!

Bash away, but just a thought...

What if this has NOTHING to do with Eldora or Lawrenceburg, but an incident from another track?

What if USACs vague response and statement is actually an effort to protect Ballou?

What if additional sanctioning bodies choose to suspend Ballou?

We should probably sleep on this tonight and see what tomorrow brings....

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The infraction was listed in the suspension.

Here's the appeals process.
http://usacracing.com/assets/files/r..._9_Appeals.pdf

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ummmmm the checks he cashes say United States Auto Club on them

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Apparently the “ Smart and Respectful “ way isn’t getting track owners attention. Ballou just had the balls to call them out. Like Rpracing1 said. There’s a name for them.

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I really think the smarter promoter would put Tony & Ballou 1 on 1 and race it out like racers, but who wants to put butt's in the seats these days? Let's just ban people (insert sarcasm), give people all around a reason to be negative, polarize them, but give them no reason to get to the track because all the chatter and publicity has no substance for the sport.

This whole situation is being handled wrong (IMO) .... It really wouldn't be hard to turn it into a spectacle that would pack the house. Team Smoke vs. Team Ballou... that's a freakin' ticket I would buy.

Any chance that Ballou races with the All Stars in 2019? 😉

Has anything Robert has said going to keep anyone from going to the races? I think not.

My 2cents, USAC did not suspend Robert on their own. Tony got hot, and pushed his weight around (and money) and most likely wanted it done. What if he tells USAC that he would never schedule another race at his track? He probably has pull at other tracks too, because he schedules his all stars at them, so could really have an effect on USAC scheduling. If Tony wants him suspended, I bet USAC would bend.

I think all of this is NOT good for the sport. All of this is uncalled for. Y’all crying on here while bashing everyone else isn’t helping the sport in anyway. Stop with the hypocritical bull crap and just get back to what this board is for.

My question is what actions are “detrimental” to the sport exactly?

- Twitter posts?
- Drivers throwing helmets or steering wheels at cars on a hot race track?
- Fighting in the pits?
- Altercations with officials?
- Intentionally wrecking another driver?

That’s why I don’t think the punishment fits the crime here. I’ve seen each of these happen in the last few years but only the first one warrants a suspension?

I’ve read a lot about smokes safety improvements to the big E on here. While they are a great thing let’s not be blind to the fact that a lot of those were done just to make code for the pick up trucks they race in July

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You sound like USAC.

I'm curious about how much farther this thread will go before being locked?

You are asking some good questions Nate... Keep your ear to the ground!

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No reason to lock the thread... unless somebody is a Tony Stewart fan... lol

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Just depends on who you are and if your on spridge and levi buddy list there is no rules or regulations posted for much. Robert did the time for there past BS anyway and was not on probation this year at all, nothing but a stacked glorified witch hunt performed here by the pals on the internal meetings.

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Robert has always been vocal often in a non constructive and sometimes unprofessional way. Everyone is hurting from the two very recent Sprint deaths and also Bryan's hitting us all close to home. No competitor should get away with pulling the "killing drivers" card because he stepped on his unit running second. He crossed a line on Social Media mostly because he was frustrated at not getting a handle on Eldora the way it is, which is providing great racing. Watch the race on video, Robert was out of shape several times before he lost it. The way the track is being prepared is racy as it's ever been and the Four Crown proved it.

It's October next week. He'll miss half a dozen races and the Western swing. He will be smarter and faster next year and look forward to seeing him back out. In the mean time, I am fine with him being in the penalty box. He will look back at the suspension years from now and laugh. I don't see it as a reason to miss the best racers without a wing running USAC races.:8:

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Hard to get tracks to pay more money when drivers bad mouth tracks when they run poorly. How many Outlaw drivers have you ever heard said a track is trying to kill somebody? Especially days after another fatality? If this was a one time deal, it probably wouldn't have been that big of a deal. Robert has had a bad year, and being a team owner/driver, that's a lot of pressure. If drivers have a problem with a track a way to fix it is as a group to officials and offer a suggestion. I have seen this work. As for improved track conditions last weekend being because of Robert, that is insane. That has been a work in progress since Stewart bought it. They have tried more than just running a sheeps foot over rubbered down track, and many have not been successful.
For those of you who want to use Robert as a martyr, You probably have done more to hurt him than help him.

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If this was just one time nothing would happen. This goes way beyond Eldora. That was the straw that broke the camels back.

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planning on going to gas city and the burg now I will stay home and do yard work. choices I have made thanks usac

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Rules are the rules everybody! Social media just like this page have consequences if you bash someone or some sanctioning body. What Robert did has nothing to do with your right of free speech. It has to do with breaking USAC rule which is conducting yourself in a respectful manner on and off the track like a Champion should. Instead of using social media to cause a **** storm. Why not instead just say that stuff to Tony's face in a respectful way. But in the same token I see the other side of it as well If you can't speak your mind what can you do!
Do I like the move they made not really because I think it hurts the sport as well! It's a double edged sword! In my honest opinion I think they just lost a guy who will never race for them again and that's a shame! So really we all lose in the big grand scheme of thing!

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Can Robert go to Kokomo tonight and run the BOSS show? Asking for a friend!:34:

Will USAC provide us who the “Key Industry Track Partners” are?

Chicken ***** move by usac and moreso Stewart if he thru his weight around to get this done especially after his tantrum at the chili bowl and all the stuff he's said about NASCAR.
I figure Ballou is kind of like our president in that he speaks his mind but needs a little polish on his presentation and all he's trying to do is Make Tracks Great Again.
MTGA!!

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Originally BOSS said if you've ever qualified for a Smackdown feature on the final night, you're not eligible to run their event.

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its called a usac payout