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Well as a long time attendee at angell park we both know there is no cushion there to speak about. It appears to me to be semi dry slick and a total momentum type race with no obvious acceleration off the corners.
That being said , I do applaud Badgers efforts to keep midget racing alive at APS. The thing I don't get is why all the 20 lap features ? Is it to save on wear and tear or why exactly ? |
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Originally Posted by Wayne Davis: The short answer is no. The block, head and crank do not have to match (my engines do match in case anyone is wondering) but they don't have to. As long as it is OEM Chevy to OEM Chevy it would be legal. On the Chevy Ecotec specifically it actually saves money to use the 2.2 head over the 2.4 head because no mods are necessary, it elminates the VVT and there are more cam options for the 2.2 head. We have found that you DO NOT have to buy three different complete engines to get this. You can buy a head by itself, a block by itself and a crank by itself and still spend the same amount as if you bought a complete engine. Using a 2.0 crank in a Chevy Ecotec would be detrimental because you are likely not able to get to a competitive cubic inch limit using that crank. If you put a 2.0 Ecotec crank in a 2.4 block you would only have an engine with 127.68 cubic inches for example. One thing to understand about these OEM engines. They (Ford, Chevy, Honda, Chrysler etc) purposely use many of the same components from engine to engine. That is GREAT for the racers who want to use those components because it means there is more available long term. |
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Originally Posted by Midget98: For the record for everyone, Scott Hatton set a new 20 lap track record in 2017 at Angell Park Speedway using a Badger Honda. He bested a mark set by a Fontana engine driven by Bill Balog from 2015. |
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That's the thing that record was set in 2015 and the reason is they have not run 20 lap features at APS for ages until the new engine program came out. Scott Hatton is also one of the best ever to run APS and probably has more laps there than just about anyone. I was curious if this was just a reliability thing at first but it is still 20 lappers so what is the reason lol ?
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Originally Posted by Ray3: |
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Here is a chart showing the different piston sizes, stroke and cubic inches for the various production engines being used in Badger style Midget competition. I show this because it tells you why you can't just say "stock" for engine size. You can see that the max of 148.82 CID was chosen to make sure the Chevy guys got as much time out of their block as the other engines. It wouldn't be fair to make the Chevy guys buy a new block every season just because they had to run a hone through the cylinders. Also, with these engines it is a lot easier to sleeve one down than it is to make it bigger due to the bore spacing of the engines. Just trying to show more information and help people understand where and why the rules are as they are.
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/f...b52c9~mv2.webp |
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Originally Posted by dirt40: |
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Ray I have a lot of respect for what you are doing.
Is there anywhere in the WORLD other than APS and BADGER that run 20 lap MIDGET A MAINS ? |
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Originally Posted by leftrear: As was said earlier, no one from Badger dictates the feature lengths at APS. |
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Originally Posted by leftrear: and for the record, USAC Western States has run 20 lap features at certain tracks and I've personally been to 360 Sprint Car races where the feature was less than 20 laps. |
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