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4wheelsinthekoosh 12/2/12 10:24 AM

Mr nobody your name says it all. You think indy cars are that much harder to drive and he will need more conditioning?? He might have to do some crunches and diet change to get into the set but come on. Last time he tried this he ran 6th for ganissi in the 2000s and them ran 2nd at the 600 from the back cause he missed the drivers meeting. No matter what your racing your hands, feet, and a$$ tell you everything and judging from Tonys record he is better than anyone who has ever sat in a cockpit.

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mr nobody 12/2/12 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by 4wheelsinthekoosh:
Mr nobody your name says it all. You think indy cars are that much harder to drive and he will need more conditioning?? He might have to do some crunches and diet change to get into the set but come on. Last time he tried this he ran 6th for ganissi in the 2000s and them ran 2nd at the 600 from the back cause he missed the drivers meeting. No matter what your racing your hands, feet, and a$$ tell you everything and judging from Tonys record he is better than anyone who has ever sat in a cockpit.

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You obviously have no clue about the testing that was done on the DW12 during it's developement. The DW12 is a much rear heavier car than those of the years Tony ran before. The cars have an enormous amount of push into the corners due to lack of front grip not to mention the anti run over bumpers behind the rear wheels. These cars race in a differnet manner then the cars of the early 2000.

Also, Tony is better then any other driver who has sat in a cockpit? He's better then Foyt, Mears and Unser Sr? Better then Rutherford, Rose, Holland, Hillm Castroneves, Dixon, Wheldon, Vukovich, or anyone else that actually has their name on the Borg? Hey lets not limit that to just the 500, lets look at accomplishments across all forms of racing? How many WDC's does Stewart have compared to Mario? Blanket statements coverup the disproving facts don't they, Billy?

tqracer65 12/2/12 11:20 AM

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of those drivers which have championships in both of the major American racing series (Indycar, and Nascar) and a tripe crown not over a period of time but in one year?

mr nobody 12/2/12 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by tqracer65:
of those drivers which have championships in both of the major American racing series (Indycar, and Nascar) and a tripe crown not over a period of time but in one year?

Triple Crown win is what you're going to say makes or breaks a driver as a "best ever" qualification?

Again, someone is saying that Tony is better then Mario? I'm no Andretti fan but I would easily tell you that Mario is well above Stewart in terms of who's better then who statistically. Foyt's better the Stewart also. Again, that's based on statistics. I know many think Tonys is the best thing since the beginning of time. If you are then good for you, but don't let worshipping him blind you to the simple facts.

jmo8 12/2/12 12:26 PM

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Last year Stewart was able to fit into Lewis Hamilton's Mclaren F1, so fitting into the car is not an issue. I also find it hard to believe that Indy is more grueling than 500 laps at Bristol or Darlington. By the end of May NASCAR already has 3 months in, he would be in race shape by the time Indy rolls around. I don't see an issue here.

Now that he is his own boss, I believe it would be easier for him to come over for one race. Also, I don't think the Brickyard 400 quite fulfills his dream to have a win at the Indianapolis Speedway.

Okay, now let me have it!

DonMoore10 12/2/12 12:34 PM

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The topic driver does one thing better than all the other mentioned.. playing the "free pass." Worse yet, people who deal with him let it happen.

SPRINTCAR 12/2/12 2:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ:
He'd be a threat with or without seat time before the 500. The man is a natural.

A threat yes, to contend no. Everyone needs practice and I don't mean a few times at Indy before the race. I want him to win the 500. :6:

tqracer65 12/2/12 3:38 PM

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likewise his statistics in the variety of divisions he has ran cant blind you from his ranking as one of the best. yes aj and mario are right there but i think tony has done plenty to prove his rank right there with them, maybe not above them but right with them. one triple crown doesnt make him the greatest but nascar indycar and triple crown do say something about the guys talent.

mr nobody 12/2/12 8:21 PM

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Originally Posted by tqracer65:
likewise his statistics in the variety of divisions he has ran cant blind you from his ranking as one of the best. yes aj and mario are right there but i think tony has done plenty to prove his rank right there with them, maybe not above them but right with them. one triple crown doesnt make him the greatest but nascar indycar and triple crown do say something about the guys talent.

So now he isn't "the best ever" but instead you say he's up there on a best ever list. Interesting. I never said he wasn't good, I did say he wasn't a best ever when there are drivers that have come before him and set the bar incredibly high for someone to match and so far Tony has hasn't met that. He's definitely a top ten best ever, maybe a low top five, but certianly not much higher as it sits right now.

tqracer65 12/2/12 9:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mr nobody:
So now he isn't "the best ever" but instead you say he's up there on a best ever list. Interesting. I never said he wasn't good, I did say he wasn't a best ever when there are drivers that have come before him and set the bar incredibly high for someone to match and so far Tony has hasn't met that. He's definitely a top ten best ever, maybe a low top five, but certianly not much higher as it sits right now.

read my first post again where i said best, I didnt. had he chose to stay with indycar fulltime instead of pursuing other options he could have possibly put up those kind of stats. he has some incredible stats spread over a very diverse group of racecars. I dont think there is a racecar division he has not had a win with that he has raced in. If there is I stand corrected but I dont believe there is.

Back on topic I would like to see this happen and think with the right equipment which he would have it could be exciting.


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