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USAC sprints ran Butler many years ago and it was a wing show!

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I'm pretty sure I-96's show will be on the 3/8ths. It's not exactly the most spectator "intense" track since the grandstands & flagstand are about 30 feet from the actual racing surface. (Youtube I96 Speedway and you'll see what I'm talking about.)

Hartford will be a great show. Track is the same size as Terre Haute, only a LOT more banking and wider surface.

I'm concerned the Michigan people don't have any idea what USAC is all about. I went to a Silver Crown show up at Berlin (Grand Rapids, MI) in 2010 and there were about 400 people in the stands.. if that. Anytime you ask someone what they want to see in Michigan all they ever want are A) Late Models or B) SOD Winged 360's. I don't think I've ever talked to anyone who has said they wanted to see a USAC show. Both 96 & Hartford going to need a strong Indiana following for USAC to be profitable... or it will be the last time USAC is ever seen in the Great Lakes State.

I enjoy hartford but is not better or even close to Terre Haute. Its not near as wide, and not banked that much. Back in 2000 it was definitely a good race though. Anytime the non wing cars go up north its nice to see.

Biggest issue i see about these shows is if the locals with the MTS will support it. If not, car count could be really thin.

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scheduled around these dates so MTS racers can race these events. i think you will see more MTS drivers interested in i96 than hartford because of the size of track... not sure how many will race but there will be some interested for sure..

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last time usac ran Hartford the owner told me if not for his support class modifieds he would have lost money. He thought usac had a bigger following. Good track to see and camp. Lake Michigan beach only 20 miles away. Hartford is really close to Northern Indiana and a couple of hours from I-96.

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Originally Posted by VSneader2:
I would like to see them race at Butler Motor Speedway. Nice track and only a few mins from I-69. I grew up going to that track and try to make it back whenever I can, even though they run winged 410 on a weekly basis.

when we would come up to mic. for nascar racing on sat nights we would go over and see some dirt track racing at butler speedway :9: we all love the tree house and became a race fan of chade blounte he sure could get around that place. what ever happen to him. got to meet him one time at eldora and have not seen much of him. that would be a great track to see usac put on a show. just make it a 2 or 3 day show and we would love to drive from indiana to see butler speedway again :22:

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Originally Posted by thebus79h:
I enjoy hartford but is not better or even close to Terre Haute. Its not near as wide, and not banked that much. Back in 2000 it was definitely a good race though. Anytime the non wing cars go up north its nice to see.

Biggest issue i see about these shows is if the locals with the MTS will support it. If not, car count could be really thin.

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Unless you've been down on the track at Hartford, you have no idea how banked it is... it's quite deceiving (from the stands it looks about flat). I did some quick math one evening at the track and figured the banking to be at 18*.

Since I've been to both places as well, I'm going to respectfully disagree with your assessment except that NOW Hartford may very well be narrower than Terre Haute since they took away about 10 feet at the bottom of the track with an inside burm to keep cars off the bottom.

On the outside wall, Hartford is 5/8ths. On the inside guardrail, 9/16ths.

I basically have grown up at hartford and the fiekd of dreams, and i still stand by my statement that hartford isnt even close to terre haute. it is a lot narrower, and unless theyve added bank in the last few years, its got some, but not a ton. Both should be really good races and glad to see the MTS is supporting it.

I havent found a track yet that i didnt enjoy.

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http://www.4thturn.net/images/THvsHMS.jpg

Both images taken at an altitude of 2443ft.

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Originally Posted by Spi-nex:
http://www.4thturn.net/images/THvsHMS.jpg

Both images taken at an altitude of 2443ft.

So which track is bigger? Looks like the same size to me. To be honest Hartford is not as narrow as you might think it is. I hear lot of friends say you need a pair of b@!!$ to drive either track. I go to Hartford a few times and have been to Terre Haute a few times over the years. The folks at Hartford run what I think is a 1st class show there. The only down side is their weekly car counts aren't the great. If the 410 Non-Wing guys have guts they will help support the race at Hartford and also the race I-96. Both tracks are great places to see BIG races.