Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

Another nickles worth, from the peanut gallery! I worked at Cummins engine Co for several years, got all the way up to Exempt, from the bottom. I was smarter than that, but I had a lot of encouragement to move up, that's what the Company likes, people with goals. Nothing against how it turned out, stuff happens, and it probably worked out the way our maker had it planned, had I stayed hourly, I would have retired with more money, and would have made more per hr, but I chose to move up. When I was let go, I called it fired, in 1985, at 47 yrs old, I didn't know what I was going to do, but it worked out, it probably wouldn't today, but I was lucky, I guess. I'm getting to my point, having been thru this, and now having been thru owning my own business, I have a lot more respect for how business works, I feel a large part of the problem, is not what the employees are paid, but how much the people above them are paid, plus all the stockholders want all they can get, so everything goes up, food and living costs, everything is tied now, to the price of a barrel of oil, which for the most part, is all profit, for the seller. When I had my own business, I was told by people in their own small business, that if you could, at the end of the year, show a profit, the money you could stuff in your bluejeans, or save, any thing above 3% was a good year, 6% was outstanding. I don't see big business following those guidelines, as they did 30 yrs ago. I also feel GM, has too many, of the same product, but with different badges, they now have more of the same product, than they have colors to paint them, and as far as dropping Pontiac, I don't consider that a good move, why not drop that same vehicle, but with the Buick, or Chevy badge, too many of the same thing, drop Saturn, who'd miss that, I think it boils down to greed, from all around, and all over, if people can't be paid enough to afford just the necessities, there's no need to produce very much of anything, that only the rich can afford, because they usually don't buy anyway, they rent, or lease. I sure don't know the answer, but the way it looks like we're headed isn't it. By the way, I drove GM stuff for years, but I've also had some Ford products, right now I have a 1997 F350, crewcab diesel dually, with 400k on it, and still going strong, and an 08 Fusion, and dearly love both of them. Bob

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

THEY DON'T MAKE FORDS!!!!!!!!!!!! I HAVE A 1978 E-250 VAN 351 WITCH I OVERHAULED 2 TIMES IT HAS OVER ONE MILLION 230000 MILES AND STILL RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!! USE VAVOLINE OIL CHAMPION PLUGS STP FILTERS!:applaud::thumb

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

Thanks, Duke, for bringing that to my attention, that thought hadn't crossed my mind, but i'd count it as a good one! Bob

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Duke, can't agree with you on the Valvoline oil tho, I was a loyal Valvoline user, till they dropped the Indy 500, so I went on a one man boycott, started using Castrol, and haven't looked back, several others did also. Bob

Re: What's Wrong With General Motors
 

Originally Posted by Shawn:
I own a 2005 Chevrolet Colorado and I've been very happy with it. I've owned Ford, Dodge and Chevrolet trucks, but this one is my favorite. I would never buy a Dodge again, since I've had numerous issues with the two Dakota's that I've had. Ironically, they've were the same issues, so I was done with Chrysler/Dodge. However, with my wife's ties to Dodge (through her family) we bought a 2008 Dodge Avenger for her, sadly. The car looks great, inside and out, but it's a piece of junk. We've had nothing but problems with it, including everything you could think of, down to the door handles peeling off.

Okay, back to GM. I tend to agree that there are too many brands, still. I'm not sure why Buick wasn't axed before Pontiac. If they can sell Hummer and sell, or do away with Saturn, it'll be a step in the right direction. Along with getting rid of Buick and Pontiac, this can only help, I'd think. Finally, why do they need so many SUV-type vehicles? They now have Traverse, Equinox, TrailBlazer, Tahoe and Suburban. How about axing one or two of those? The first few that I mentioned, seem like they're quite a bit similar in size. Just a thought. Doing away with other brands will help with my other thought, which was why do they have the same vehicle, but with three brands? For example, the mid-size truck for GM comes in three brands, Chevrolet, GMC and Isuzu. Maybe it's something that isn't an issue, but seems that it could be. Only having Chevrolet and GMC will do away with some of this...hopefully! I'm no expert, but these are just some thoughts that I have rattling around in my head...

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Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

Sorry to say but I owned 4 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 trucks and all 4 were the biggest pieces of SH$#T ever built. I went threw 4 transmissions 2 transfer cases 1 rear end 9 front locking assemblies and the bed fell clean off once. No I wasn't out beating them either at that time I also owned 2 Ford and 1 Dodge truck and used them in the same way as the Chevys. We were in the Reforestation business at that time working for the US forest service. All of those things happened in the first 50,000 miles. The last straw for me was when the transmission on the truck that I drove went out and I called the dealer to come and get it, when I told him where it was they refused to honor the warranty because I was on a stone service road and being off road my warranty was invalid. All the roads we traveled on were stone and maintained on a regular basis. I took all 4 trucks to the Ford dealer traded them for 4 new Fords and never had 1 single problem in 155,000 miles. The stone road thing was absolutely ridiculous that means that 90% of the vehicles in Indiana have voided there warranty. I feel bad for those people who are losing there jobs but GM has made there bed now they can sleep in it. GM will go belly up the union contracts with GM will be broken then they can start over on the TAX PAYERS DIME.

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

Originally Posted by sc96:
Sorry to say but I owned 4 chevy 3/4 ton 4x4 trucks and all 4 were the biggest pieces of SH$#T ever built. I went threw 4 transmissions 2 transfer cases 1 rear end 9 front locking assemblies and the bed fell clean off once. No I wasn't out beating them either at that time I also owned 2 Ford and 1 Dodge truck and used them in the same way as the Chevys. We were in the Reforestation business at that time working for the US forest service. All of those things happened in the first 50,000 miles. The last straw for me was when the transmission on the truck that I drove went out and I called the dealer to come and get it, when I told him where it was they refused to honor the warranty because I was on a stone service road and being off road my warranty was invalid. All the roads we traveled on were stone and maintained on a regular basis. I took all 4 trucks to the Ford dealer traded them for 4 new Fords and never had 1 single problem in 155,000 miles. The stone road thing was absolutely ridiculous that means that 90% of the vehicles in Indiana have voided there warranty. I feel bad for those people who are losing there jobs but GM has made there bed now they can sleep in it. GM will go belly up the union contracts with GM will be broken then they can start over on the TAX PAYERS DIME.

FORD HAS A BETTER IDEAL! BEST TRUCKS BUILT!:applaud:

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

I sent Hubler an email about my 3rd door hinge, they emailed back and said they couldn't compete with aftermarket parts BUT they admitted to overcharging me. Said I should have been charged about $10 less. Bring my receipt down for a refund. They also said that there was a new part number where this piece had been improved and I could exchange it if I wanted too. Of course its already installed, so I will just get the $10 and be happy and spend it getting into a race somewhere.

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

What's wrong with GM is the same thing that's wrong with most of the other big American companies. They are run by lawyers and bean counters, instead of by folks who love the industries they are in. If GM had been consistently run by "car guys" for the past few years, they would never have made some of the bone-headed decisions they made, never mind the bad cars they made.

I had three Chevies in the 70s & 80s. Each had well over $200,000 miles on it when I sold it. What more could you ask?

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

Subject: Third Door Hard to Open and/or Handle Breakage (Adjust Lock Rods)


Models: 1996-2002 Chevrolet and GMC S/T Extended Cab Pickup Models (S-10, Sonoma)




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Condition
Some customers may comment that the third door is hard to open and/or the door handle may be broken.

Cause
The lock rods may be improperly adjusted.

Correction
Adjust the lock rods using the following procedure:

Remove the door trim.
Release both lock rod rods from the lock rod retainers.



Position the upper lock rod first. Refer to arrow in illustration. Position the lock rod in the retainer so that there is 10 to 12 mm (0.39 to 0.47 in) (Approximately 11-12 threads showing) from the end of the lock rod.
Important: Make sure the upper striker is not bound against the latch. If this happens, you must push the door inboard to release the latch. To correct a bound latch, adjust the striker until the striker is centered with the latch.

Position the lower lock rod in the retainer where it rests, usually 5.0 to 6 mm (0.19 to 0.23 in) of threads from the end of the rod after the upper lock rod is locked in place.
Install the door trim.

Re: Whats wrong with General Motors
 

Originally Posted by Seadog:
And now I have brake rotors that are terribly warped and the car shudders when I hit the brakes and neither the extended warranty nor GM will cover it. The DEALER said this is a common problem and GM knows since 2000 about it and has done nothing.

I really like the car - if I can keep it out of the shop.

I always buy American and often Chevy. But this car has left a bad taste in my mouth and GM doesn't care. I'm not saying this is the case with all GM owners. But I read and I hear that I am not alone with these issues.

Seadog,

I experienced a similar problem on a 2000 Pontiac. Replaced rotars and the same thing happened. Replaced them again, same story. I finally found that you need to "upgrade" to a different rotar. It is made for police cars and they cost a little more but it has solved my problem. Hope this helps.