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We,, (MALS) have been working on getting a meeting set up for this fall with MMSA, MLS, ILSS, AMSA and maybe WIMS to work on a common set of rules. |
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My idea tec inspection would be: 1. Draw a pill to see if you get around the world or simple bore stroke and fuel check. 2. If you loose and win the around the world treatment. here is what you would get. 3. The racer and car would be invited into an air conditioned trailer with plastic wind curtains, the car would be placed on stands. 4. The bore and stroke would be made in the usual way. 5.All 4 plugs would be removed as well as the valve cover and right side engine cover. 6. Two pistons would be turned to bottom dead center, tecs choice. & Insert bore scope down one plug hole and observe piston crown, a stock piston will look nothing like a race piston, (see example of stock piston on page 3 of this post). Those two lines running across the piston get a lot closer to the center hole on a high compression piston, further apart on a low compression piston. Stand out like a Babby Ruth in a punch bowl to someone who looks at them all the time. 7. Put the angle viewer on the bore scope and by looking down different plug holes you can observe the valves and shape of the valves, same thing stock valves and Ferra valves just don't look the same. Tec make decision on weather more tear down is necessary. 8. Measure cam heal and toe with mike that should give you good idea about cam lift, Horsepower is made with lift and valve size. 9. Take the bore scope and insert it in the holes inside the engine side cover from this vantage point you can observe rods and crank counter weights, hard to hide carrillo h beam rods and shiny machined counter weights. 10. The tec can check the Methanol at the track, hard to hide stuff in there, but gasoline has different weight from station to station, might want to send it off. There is a lot of horsepower \one can put inside gasoline and not get caught with. Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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Seems like everyone would rather address everything else rather than Spikers request to run with MMSA for one race with an engine just a little outside the norm! Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
Ill have s bone stock engine package for my car Monday to run all tracks but Waynesfield.
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First..........I need to apologize to anyone and everyone......Particularly Mr. Bradley. I let my passion for this class override what little common sense I possess. I kinda got out of line with my comments on this thread. Everyone please except my apology.
I have been involved with Mini-sprints/Lightning Sprints since 1986. Yeah..........that long. And no.......I didn't start when I was 1 year old either unfortunately. I have an undying passion for this class. I have raced about everything else you can imagine but I always have stayed involved with this class. I see it starting to take one it's down hill slides that I have seen in years past. That doesn't need to happen. Not if we can get it under control as a collective group. Anyway......I tend to get a little defensive about our cars. Obviously, something I need to work on. Just had a really nice phone conversation with Mr. Fortune. I appreciate the communication sir. He and I are both going to try to organize some sort of "meeting" of interested groups to try to come up with a NATIONAL set of rules. Something all parties agree on. Something we can all live with and maybe help promote this class on a nationwide basis. We have some really good people in various groups that I am sure can make this happen. We/I will try to keep everyone posted as this develops. Anyone interested please try to contact me. We have to start somewhere people. Phil Heavelow............(913) 371-5212 or (816) 223-1009 cell. Or jmillwight@kc.rr.com |
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There will always be people looking for an edge and willing to spend money to achieve those means. The thing to think about is there ain't no "motor magic". The fastest motors will always be in the car with the most modern chassis, the newest tires and shocks, and the best drivers. It is hard to beat that combination with any kind of hot rod motor. I saw a motor builder advertising that his motors won the championship with MMSA. He didn't give that darned driver or mechanic a bit of credit. I have been around enough to know that bunch is fast in a $hit box. But the add will get a few more people to spend a little more money with him so they can try to beat that set up. And that is what racing is about. Have you ever seen an illegal motor in a car at the back of the pack? Those are the guys that need one. Now how about them battle bar rules??:11;:11; They would prevent an awful lot of flips. How about adding weight so a 250 pound guy can run with the 90 pound kid? And people wont be spending so much money on light chassis and parts to make up for that last "BIG MACK ATTACK".:11;:11; Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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I'm with you Phil, Been there done that. History will repeat itself if we aren't careful. The sad thing is people don't have their eye on the ball. They want to blame the motor for everything and escalate the spending on them when really it is very seldom the engine that wins races. We spend a lot of money if we have it on (chassis shocks and tires ) with a good driver that will make you fast, to hell with the motor.
To help grow the sport perhaps we need a rookie class where a guy can come in and run with his peers. If nothing else start them in the back of the pack and let them race for a trophy amongst them selves. When the race directors feels they have progressed enough then move them up to the front of the pack he can do that also. It would be nice if some of the more experienced racers could take a rookie under their arm and get them up to speed a little. Maybe even have a little class on set up and gearing and even driving style. Those things would help us grow the sport, Bitchen about motors won't do nothing for us. NO COMENTS ON RIKERS REQUEST YET???:19: mo cars mo moneys:D:D Honest Dad himself:6::6: |
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