Lightning Sprints

Bradleyracing86 · 1/20/14, 9:05 PM

Drivers, Owners, Promoters,

If your looking for something new consider the fastest growing open wheel class!

These cars are extremely fast, and very cost effective.

Stock Engines, oem internals, national rules base.

Race in any state, as much as you want!

They race at very nice venues.

If your driving a Sprint, Midget, Stock Car or Modified and your looking for a change these cars would cut your operating cost down to fraction.

We use minimal tires, Aprox 7 gals a fuel a night, and most series races pay as much as the bigger classes.

Used cars from $4500-$8000

New cars range from 12k-18k depending on options and equipment.

Engines last, most chrome cylinder production motorcycle engines.

Average Engine Cost $2000
We have had engines last 3 seasons.

Race with multiple Series.. MMSA, ILLS, MALS.. And many others.

If you want more info feel free to give us a call, or email me your address for an informational flyer.

Andy Bradley
812-345-3946
Hoosier Speed , Bloomington IN

DAD · 1/20/14, 10:51 PM

Andy

I have been saying the same thing for over 20 years now.

HOW FAST ARE THEY ??

1. The races are run off super fast. You don't need push trucks to get going and they spend most of their time racing and not spinning out.

2. They are fast enough to hold their own against a full size midget on a 1/4 mile track. They are doing this right now up in northern Indiana at Montpelier Speedway.

3. They are fast enough with their wings on to turn lap times within a few tenths of a second of the 410 non wing sprint cars at Bloomington, Brownstown and the old Lawrenceburg Speedway.

4. There lap times are faster than the open wheel modifieds on most any track.

5. For lazy people like me you can "SPEED Through Maintenance" with just a wash off and chain lube between races, and maybe an oil change every 4 or 5 races.

6. Did I mention you get to spend quality time with your family and race with some very nice people.

Honest Dad himself

Quantrill · 1/21/14, 8:37 AM

Very well said, I might have to plagiarize this. I know there are a lot of guys who think they cant afford to go open wheel racing or who are tired of putting a second mortgage on there house just to go racing and have fun. These guys really need to take a closer look at our cars.

PatrickMead#13 · 1/21/14, 9:53 AM

Everything in the post is 100% truth. I am a very limited budget guy and this is the way to go for the working guys like us. Maintenance is easy and cost effective, tires last pretty well. (I buy used tires most the time) and the folks running them are always there to help out and we have a great time doing it.

cws9 · 1/21/14, 10:15 AM

Let me add one more thing...Since I have no friends or family to help. You can handle everything by yourself! Loading, unloading, towing, starting, maintenance, belts, everything! There have been many times I went to the track alone. What other type of car can you do that with?

DAD · 1/21/14, 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cws9

Let me add one more thing...Since I have no friends or family to help. You can handle everything by yourself! Loading, unloading, towing, starting, maintenance, belts, everything! There have been many times I went to the track alone. What other type of car can you do that with?

CW

You will never have to worry about help getting loaded at the track.

"BUT" Can you think of any other open wheel race car that you could get into and drive the car on to the trailer if you had to?>>> That's pretty fast too.

Honest Dad himself

PatrickMead#13 · 1/21/14, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cws9

Let me add one more thing...Since I have no friends or family to help. You can handle everything by yourself! Loading, unloading, towing, starting, maintenance, belts, everything! There have been many times I went to the track alone. What other type of car can you do that with?

I hear you on that one CW.

cmiracingvids · 1/21/14, 6:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cws9

Let me add one more thing...Since I have no friends or family to help. You can handle everything by yourself! Loading, unloading, towing, starting, maintenance, belts, everything! There have been many times I went to the track alone. What other type of car can you do that with?

Right on!! I did this a few times last year. I left dirt go kart racing to these cars. One of the reasons was I actually couldn't go to the kart race by myself! I needed another body for help. And I kid you not, I spend about the same amount of money week in and week out as I did kart racing. Sometimes less!!
Lightning sprints are the way to go!

hoscalecody · 1/21/14, 9:06 PM

I have a friend that wants to race karts but I told them it probably would be better idea to get in mini sprint like me 2013 was my first year racing anything yeah I have older chassis and motor yeah this year we are getting better motor but I got on track for $3000 not that much money. All I had to do is buy spark plugs, oil and get radiator fixed because bolt broke thru the year but yet I learned how to drive them for cheap. Mini sprints are also safer because I know some carts don't have roll cages. So I recommend any one that reads this that hasn't raced or does race to talk to people get a mini sprint/lightning sprint/upright mini sprint this class is a great class to run have lots of nice helping people and its very fun and affordable. If you don't think its cheap because you have to buy a truck and trailer well if you went to Waynesfield Raceway Park in 2013 there is a chance you might of seen are hauler a old 1973 Ford Econoline class C motor home that was in flood tore the insides out cut back off made a fold down door and put are mini sprint in it like I said cheap. I don't think I have to say really anymore.

Cody SlideWayz Downard 3D

DAD · 1/21/14, 10:22 PM

OK people time to step it up a notch or two. As a lot f you know I became an expert at buying "JUNK" Junkyard Kawasaki's last summer. The supply of motorcycle motors is down. The demand for good low mileage motors is way up. This week I bought for one more time a junkyard motor. The motor is supposed to be a 2000 mile 2010 zx10r. If that is true I might luck out with a good motor.

The first Kaw we bought in 2005 had 300 miles on it and we ran it hard for most of four years. Well we decided to update and got a second motor. It was a 2008 with 500 miles on it. We ran it for 3 years with no problems. Heck I even started bragging about it. A thermostat froze closed and we blew our new motor into a million pieces. we were in a hurry to get back racing so we put the old 2005 motor back in. The only problem is we used the bad thermostat in this motor also and did the same thing to it up at Montpelier right in front of the poor flagman on the last lap of the main.

This is where the story goes down hill fast. We were in a hurry to find another motor so went to a good dealer and he said he had one but it was hit hard on the flywheel cover. We said that would be Ok and the price was right so we put it in and started it up and after running for 10 minutes it locked up and quit. Ass uming the crank was bent We went to Ebay and bough one off of a dealer. He told us it came bear without the covers or flywheel . We offered him more for a complete motor. It took him 2 weeks to deliver the motor to us, guess he was having a hard time finding the parts that he said he had removed. We put it in and proceeded to blow it up with just a heat and a trophy dash of racing time.

We then go out and buy a crank to put in the motor that we thought had a bent crankshaft. We checked out everything put in new bolts and rod bearings and blew it up after about 30 practice laps. It turns out it was not a bent crank but bent cylinder block. Many times if a bike is hit hard on the flywheel side the force will warp the main bearing bores long ways and not affect the up and down measurements. So with plastic gauge the clearance will check out OK. Not knowing this we blew this motor up in about 30 practice laps.

Here is the reason for this rant::

Good cycle motors are getting harder and harder to find. They are importing just a fraction of the bikes that they imported just 7 or 8 years ago. More and more racers are adapting these motors to work in their type of race car. The quality of motor is going way down and the demand is increasing. I have not seen a 500 mile motor on Ebay in ages and when I do it caries a very large price tag on it. On top of all this other doom and gloom they are making them harder and harder to fit in a race car.

Wayne Davis and I have had some pretty good discussions here on IOW about just what the name for these things should be. I finally won the argument and convinced him that they were indeed midgets. But then Wayne has to go me one better. When I explained to him how hard it would be to change a late model cycle motor over to work with a drive shaft old Wayne goes out and buys an ecotec and now he calls them and his mini sprints Division II Midgets.

I have thought for a long time, in fact since watching them race out at Tulsa several years ago that the ecotec midget and the mini sprint would make great racing partners. If you look in the midget classified of IOW right now you can find turn key ecotecs and used midget rollers at a very reasonable prices. With an ecotec you are looking at a $400.00 dollar motor that are more than plentiful.

Why not include the ecotecs with the mini sprints and see how they match up with us. Their only hold back that I can see right now is probably their starting system (push Trucks). But I bet if you used 2 high torque starters they would start up and pull right away away without a clutch. Us Tree Hugers would call them Hybrid race cars.

Just a couple of extra lines in the rules could make this happen. I know some guys in Illinois and Florida are racing them now, but the real testing grounds would be in here in Indiana.

Honest Dad himself

1/21/14, 8:37 AM	#3 Re: Lightning Sprints
Quantrill Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 526	Very well said, I might have to plagiarize this. I know there are a lot of guys who think they cant afford to go open wheel racing or who are tired of putting a second mortgage on there house just to go racing and have fun. These guys really need to take a closer look at our cars.

1/21/14, 10:22 PM	#10 Re: Lightning Sprints
DAD Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 5,957	OK people time to step it up a notch or two. As a lot f you know I became an expert at buying "JUNK" Junkyard Kawasaki's last summer. The supply of motorcycle motors is down. The demand for good low mileage motors is way up. This week I bought for one more time a junkyard motor. The motor is supposed to be a 2000 mile 2010 zx10r. If that is true I might luck out with a good motor. The first Kaw we bought in 2005 had 300 miles on it and we ran it hard for most of four years. Well we decided to update and got a second motor. It was a 2008 with 500 miles on it. We ran it for 3 years with no problems. Heck I even started bragging about it. A thermostat froze closed and we blew our new motor into a million pieces. we were in a hurry to get back racing so we put the old 2005 motor back in. The only problem is we used the bad thermostat in this motor also and did the same thing to it up at Montpelier right in front of the poor flagman on the last lap of the main. This is where the story goes down hill fast. We were in a hurry to find another motor so went to a good dealer and he said he had one but it was hit hard on the flywheel cover. We said that would be Ok and the price was right so we put it in and started it up and after running for 10 minutes it locked up and quit. Ass uming the crank was bent We went to Ebay and bough one off of a dealer. He told us it came bear without the covers or flywheel . We offered him more for a complete motor. It took him 2 weeks to deliver the motor to us, guess he was having a hard time finding the parts that he said he had removed. We put it in and proceeded to blow it up with just a heat and a trophy dash of racing time. We then go out and buy a crank to put in the motor that we thought had a bent crankshaft. We checked out everything put in new bolts and rod bearings and blew it up after about 30 practice laps. It turns out it was not a bent crank but bent cylinder block. Many times if a bike is hit hard on the flywheel side the force will warp the main bearing bores long ways and not affect the up and down measurements. So with plastic gauge the clearance will check out OK. Not knowing this we blew this motor up in about 30 practice laps. Here is the reason for this rant:: Good cycle motors are getting harder and harder to find. They are importing just a fraction of the bikes that they imported just 7 or 8 years ago. More and more racers are adapting these motors to work in their type of race car. The quality of motor is going way down and the demand is increasing. I have not seen a 500 mile motor on Ebay in ages and when I do it caries a very large price tag on it. On top of all this other doom and gloom they are making them harder and harder to fit in a race car. Wayne Davis and I have had some pretty good discussions here on IOW about just what the name for these things should be. I finally won the argument and convinced him that they were indeed midgets. But then Wayne has to go me one better. When I explained to him how hard it would be to change a late model cycle motor over to work with a drive shaft old Wayne goes out and buys an ecotec and now he calls them and his mini sprints Division II Midgets. I have thought for a long time, in fact since watching them race out at Tulsa several years ago that the ecotec midget and the mini sprint would make great racing partners. If you look in the midget classified of IOW right now you can find turn key ecotecs and used midget rollers at a very reasonable prices. With an ecotec you are looking at a $400.00 dollar motor that are more than plentiful. Why not include the ecotecs with the mini sprints and see how they match up with us. Their only hold back that I can see right now is probably their starting system (push Trucks). But I bet if you used 2 high torque starters they would start up and pull right away away without a clutch. Us Tree Hugers would call them Hybrid race cars. Just a couple of extra lines in the rules could make this happen. I know some guys in Illinois and Florida are racing them now, but the real testing grounds would be in here in Indiana. Honest Dad himself