USAC's time promise

Dyno Don · 3/26/08, 3:25 PM

Kevin Miller said that he wants all USAC shows to be over by 10:30PM.

How is he going to accomplish this chore?

When USAC goes to a track with 2 or more support series, what leverage does he have to get USAC's part of the program run first?

Will USAC have control of the schedule or will the promoter allow USAC special times on the schedule?

I guess we will find out April 5 if USAC can do what they say they want to do.

SUPERDUKE · 3/26/08, 3:35 PM

He Meant The Next Day!

Ovalmeister · 3/26/08, 3:45 PM

Kevin Miller....are you hating life yet? Trust me, it only gets worse. :rolling
David.

Dwight Clock · 3/26/08, 3:59 PM

I believe that USAC as well as most other traveling series have it in the contracts that they will be run first. That is to say their heats will be before support series heats, their semis before support series semis, and their feature is to be run first. Kevin, can you confirm that if it is so?

duel · 3/26/08, 4:26 PM

10:30 would be a good goal to just start the usac feature. I think usac would need control over the support shows to make this happen. There are a lot of things that can happen at a show as we all know. As long as usac doesn't = U Stand Around Constantly:O:

Flatrightrear · 3/26/08, 4:52 PM

You need to instill a time limit on all races. No way should any heat race ,B-main or whatever be allowed to run to infinity. How many times has a support class basically ruined an otherwise nice night at the track by wasting everybody's time with endless yellow flags? 10 laps or 10 minutes and no longer. Even the main class can shorten their races if they exceed a set time. No more running a race to the bitter end for four cars to transfer when there are only four cars left in the race anyway because of attrition. I hate to see a guy leave with his kids at say, 10:30, because of all the needless jacking around all night All the money he spent - kids might get in free but do like to eat- plus now consider gas money and he is liable to not come back with his kids which does not help build a base for future fans. That is one reason I don't mind going to the track by myself. When I get fed up with all the messing around I can leave if I wish 'cause after a while I just don't care anymore.

international · 3/26/08, 5:06 PM

One thing I have seen at a couple of big money late model and sprint races at a track in WI is the track will invite or allow only the top 20 in points in the support series (modifieds or super stocks) to participate with the big dollar shows. It makes a difference. Generally the quality of car and driver is higher. It doesn't change the points fund for that series and the show goes off much quicker. It does reduce the back gate income for the track however.

BrentTFunk · 3/26/08, 5:18 PM

Unfortunately, since we are in that idiotic time zone, that means most racing could be run before the lights are on. That always makes for some nice racetracks. By the way that is not USAC's fault. Maybe since Rollie is now a state employee he can work on this.

hoosierhillbilly · 3/26/08, 8:34 PM

In general, I am not a huge fan of my local track, the Columbus Motor SPeedway, however, they do one thing right. They run the special feature first. I have been to many midget and focus midget races their features were over before 10:30. I think that an early feature is possible, as long as, the track works at accomplishing this.

staggerman · 3/26/08, 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Flatrightrear

You need to instill a time limit on all races. No way should any heat race ,B-main or whatever be allowed to run to infinity. How many times has a support class basically ruined an otherwise nice night at the track by wasting everybody's time with endless yellow flags? 10 laps or 10 minutes and no longer. Even the main class can shorten their races if they exceed a set time. No more running a race to the bitter end for four cars to transfer when there are only four cars left in the race anyway because of attrition. I hate to see a guy leave with his kids at say, 10:30, because of all the needless jacking around all night All the money he spent - kids might get in free but do like to eat- plus now consider gas money and he is liable to not come back with his kids which does not help build a base for future fans. That is one reason I don't mind going to the track by myself. When I get fed up with all the messing around I can leave if I wish 'cause after a while I just don't care anymore.

So this should be for the sprints also? I have seen many sprint heats and features that take 30-60 minutes to run due to yellows and reds. :rolling

3/26/08, 3:25 PM	#1 USAC's time promise
Dyno Don Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 579	Kevin Miller said that he wants all USAC shows to be over by 10:30PM. How is he going to accomplish this chore? When USAC goes to a track with 2 or more support series, what leverage does he have to get USAC's part of the program run first? Will USAC have control of the schedule or will the promoter allow USAC special times on the schedule? I guess we will find out April 5 if USAC can do what they say they want to do.

3/26/08, 3:35 PM	#2 Re: USAC's time promise
SUPERDUKE Banned Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,256	He Meant The Next Day!

3/26/08, 3:45 PM	#3 Re: USAC's time promise
Ovalmeister Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 805	Kevin Miller....are you hating life yet? Trust me, it only gets worse. :rolling David.

3/26/08, 3:59 PM	#4 Re: USAC's time promise
Dwight Clock Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,233	I believe that USAC as well as most other traveling series have it in the contracts that they will be run first. That is to say their heats will be before support series heats, their semis before support series semis, and their feature is to be run first. Kevin, can you confirm that if it is so?

3/26/08, 4:26 PM	#5 Re: USAC's time promise
duel Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 3,427	10:30 would be a good goal to just start the usac feature. I think usac would need control over the support shows to make this happen. There are a lot of things that can happen at a show as we all know. As long as usac doesn't = U Stand Around Constantly:O:

3/26/08, 4:52 PM	#6 Re: USAC's time promise
Flatrightrear Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 1,385	You need to instill a time limit on all races. No way should any heat race ,B-main or whatever be allowed to run to infinity. How many times has a support class basically ruined an otherwise nice night at the track by wasting everybody's time with endless yellow flags? 10 laps or 10 minutes and no longer. Even the main class can shorten their races if they exceed a set time. No more running a race to the bitter end for four cars to transfer when there are only four cars left in the race anyway because of attrition. I hate to see a guy leave with his kids at say, 10:30, because of all the needless jacking around all night All the money he spent - kids might get in free but do like to eat- plus now consider gas money and he is liable to not come back with his kids which does not help build a base for future fans. That is one reason I don't mind going to the track by myself. When I get fed up with all the messing around I can leave if I wish 'cause after a while I just don't care anymore.

3/26/08, 5:06 PM	#7 Re: USAC's time promise
international Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 47	One thing I have seen at a couple of big money late model and sprint races at a track in WI is the track will invite or allow only the top 20 in points in the support series (modifieds or super stocks) to participate with the big dollar shows. It makes a difference. Generally the quality of car and driver is higher. It doesn't change the points fund for that series and the show goes off much quicker. It does reduce the back gate income for the track however.

3/26/08, 5:18 PM	#8 Re: USAC's time promise
BrentTFunk Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 17,558	Unfortunately, since we are in that idiotic time zone, that means most racing could be run before the lights are on. That always makes for some nice racetracks. By the way that is not USAC's fault. Maybe since Rollie is now a state employee he can work on this.

3/26/08, 8:34 PM	#9 Re: USAC's time promise
hoosierhillbilly Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 603	In general, I am not a huge fan of my local track, the Columbus Motor SPeedway, however, they do one thing right. They run the special feature first. I have been to many midget and focus midget races their features were over before 10:30. I think that an early feature is possible, as long as, the track works at accomplishing this.