[Midwest Connection]

Just thought many IOW readers would like to see the #82 Lay Transmission Spl. sprinter at the USAC show at Oswego Speedway - 16 July 1967.

Photo source: Oswego Speedway USAC Empire State 100 program - 14 July 1968

Have a good day...see you at the races

Rich - Arnold, Missouri

Rollie Beale & The #82 "Lay Transmission Spl. at Oswego Speedway - 16 July 1967

[ColoradoFan]

In the left corner of the picture is A. J.Watson and Mario Andretti and Watson's 4-cam Ford.

Vern Plotts

[cecil98]

that appears to be one of those "Alfaters" we've discussed on here before! one of the ugliest sprint cars ever built but, lightning fast. Rollie was hard to beat in that car. That may be the twin 50 lap race that Mario won and Rollie finished 2nd.

[Midwest Connection]

cecil98 - not really to sure what it is about the Lay Trans. Spl you think is ugly. But, everyone has their opinion. Don't remember anyone commenting about it being ugly back in 1967. But, I do remember the happy comments made by a lot of my racing buddies, just to be able to see Rollie Beale race up in Oswego, New York. Oh well, again, you call it the way you see it.

When I see Rollie Beale I will let him know you thought his sprint car was ugly.

Have a good day...see you at the races

Rich - Arnold, Missouri

[SUPERDUKE]

Originally Posted by coloradofan in the left corner of the picture is a. J.watson and mario andretti and watson's 4-cam ford. Vern plotts

and in the background is bob pratt in the vivian buick dale doty owned 26

[cecil98]

Originally Posted by Midwest Connection cecil98 - not really to sure what it is about the Lay Trans. Spl you think is ugly. But, everyone has their opinion. Don't remember anyone commenting about it being ugly back in 1967. But, I do remember the happy comments made by a lot of my racing buddies, just to be able to see Rollie Beale race up in Oswego, New York. Oh well, again, you call it the way you see it. When I see Rollie Beale I will let him know you thought his sprint car was ugly. Have a good day...see you at the races Rich - Arnold, Missouri

Rich! I don't want Rollie coming after me! However, I think that squared off front end and the roll bar that looks like it was built for a Panzer tank, on the Alfater's, made the car quite unsightly. Compare it to the nose and lines of the Watson sprinter in your other post. Now, like I said, don't rat me out to Rollie!

[Midwest Connection]

cecil98 - you do have some interesting race car critiques I will admit. But, you have the right to say it, as you see it. As far as saying anything to Rollie Beale, it won't happen. Maybe, we can meet at some race track someday, somewhere, and talk racing. I plan on being up Indiana way in 2010 quite a bit, Indy for practice and Pole Day,the Indiana State Fairgrounds, and Little 500 for starters, in the month of May.

Have a good day...see you at the races

Rich

[racerjim2]

Those Charlie Alfater cars were ugley BUT in a beautiful way.

[Speedwrench]

Originally Posted by cecil98 that appears to be one of those "Alfaters" we've discussed on here before! one of the ugliest sprint cars ever built but, lightning fast. Rollie was hard to beat in that car. That may be the twin 50 lap race that Mario won and Rollie finished 2nd.

The Altfaters may have been ugly but they were so technically advanced for their time that it was unbelieveable.

The first one I remember seeing was the Crash Brothers car that Lou Blaney drove. I thought it was a shortened champ dirt car and that someone had split a grease drum length-wise for the nose.

[Butch47265]

Originally Posted by Speedwrench The Altfaters may have been ugly but they were so technically advanced for their time that it was unbelieveable. The first one I remember seeing was the Crash Brothers car that Lou Blaney drove. I thought it was a shortened champ dirt car and that someone had split a grease drum length-wise for the nose.

I drove a charlie car for Jim Waltz in 60, I thought it was ugly also but they were fast blue#21. Butch

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Originally Posted by Speedwrench The Altfaters may have been ugly but they were so technically advanced for their time that it was unbelieveable. The first one I remember seeing was the Crash Brothers car that Lou Blaney drove. I thought it was a shortened champ dirt car and that someone had split a grease drum length-wise for the nose.

I drove a charlie car for Jim Waltz in 60, I thought it was ugly also but they were fast blue#21. Butch