amsa rules change

11/10/09, 10:33 AM

Congrats to the AMSA on posting a timely outline of changes for 2010.

I feel the weight changes and spec tire will move us in the direction of reducing costs which surely will be welcomed by all.

The only small detail I would like to raise is the no cutting rule on the hard tire..........I know if pushed I can get an extra couple of nights out of a RR by freshening the groove..................just a thought.

Great job in making these rule changes I applaud your vision.

bgbrd · 11/10/09, 11:10 AM

A car and driver weight rule? Who comes up with these crazy ideas?

STUMPS88 · 11/10/09, 12:00 PM

Im thinking AMSA should just cut all the crazy weight rules and just place in affect a stock 1000cc rule...970 for a motor on alki?...Little steep i think... Im at 210lbs and i still would need to add weight to my car to run down there... 1040 to add to anything over a 1000cc... Bolten on all that weight sounds dangerous to me...I like no zx12 motors...In my opionion running alki and gas over the past few years i really dont think theres a huge difference...If i had the cash i would buy me a 08 gsxr 1000 and run gas...Any rules on what type of gas to run?...You can get a nice race gas that will pull better numbers than running alki and be legal...

Can a old guy like myself out there get there car to 900lbs and feel safe?....Looks like the AMSA will be dominated by the younger crowd...

Tire issue i have to agree with atleast letting everyone grove them...Theres another cost for everyone to buy new tires all summer...I myself buy used from midget guys... Now try to find a tire thats not groved...Good luck guys... ; )

11/10/09, 12:19 PM

alternatively you could run alky get your car/driver to 970 and feel totally safe and be competitive right at the weight limit.

I see what Jerry is doing and its very cool.............hes giving you the choice.

STUMPS88 · 11/10/09, 12:38 PM

I run alki now and weigh in at 935lbs with my recent weight loss... ; )... Dont see me adding weight or see it being competitive with 900lbs car and driver..Best bet is switch to gas and be good with that...If i came down thats what id do... Throw in the gas bladder,switch my motor harness and injection and stumble on down... ; )

mini27 · 11/10/09, 1:06 PM

970 lbs for alky is way to much is stock is 900 lbs

11/10/09, 1:21 PM

mini27 I dont understand your statement surely it depends on what you weigh??
If 970 is 'way too much" Im guessing you reckon stock at 900 will be faster?
If so then you just saved yourself a bunch of money!

slide22 · 11/10/09, 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mini27

970 lbs for alky is way to much is stock is 900 lbs

If you can't get your car to 970 and its relatively new, you have a big problem. 900 is too low for stock though.

11/10/09, 1:44 PM

I think a 750lbs car is totally achieveable without any carbon or titanium...........throw in a 150lbs kid and you got 900lbs................I know if I ran gas there is NO WAY I could get down that low so Im at 970 on alky.

STUMPS88 · 11/10/09, 1:52 PM

1200sprinter... Get accsess to a mill and lathe... I machined everything i could on my car that wasnt a saftey structure,tossed the bailey motor plate,tossed the garden tractor battery,All aluminum hiems,did buy some hollow bolts...I was at 230lbs and weighed in at 963...FYI... Its alot of work... ; )... plus i run a full midget axle,1/2 radius ods/hiems,and bladder... If i ran a cheesey fuel cell and bailey front im sure to lose another 10/15lbs...

11/10/09, 10:33 AM	#1 amsa rules change
1200sprinter Posts: n/a	Congrats to the AMSA on posting a timely outline of changes for 2010. I feel the weight changes and spec tire will move us in the direction of reducing costs which surely will be welcomed by all. The only small detail I would like to raise is the no cutting rule on the hard tire..........I know if pushed I can get an extra couple of nights out of a RR by freshening the groove..................just a thought. Great job in making these rule changes I applaud your vision.

11/10/09, 11:10 AM	#2 Re: amsa rules change
bgbrd Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 248	A car and driver weight rule? Who comes up with these crazy ideas?

11/10/09, 12:00 PM	#3 Re: amsa rules change
STUMPS88 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 93	Im thinking AMSA should just cut all the crazy weight rules and just place in affect a stock 1000cc rule...970 for a motor on alki?...Little steep i think... Im at 210lbs and i still would need to add weight to my car to run down there... 1040 to add to anything over a 1000cc... Bolten on all that weight sounds dangerous to me...I like no zx12 motors...In my opionion running alki and gas over the past few years i really dont think theres a huge difference...If i had the cash i would buy me a 08 gsxr 1000 and run gas...Any rules on what type of gas to run?...You can get a nice race gas that will pull better numbers than running alki and be legal... Can a old guy like myself out there get there car to 900lbs and feel safe?....Looks like the AMSA will be dominated by the younger crowd... Tire issue i have to agree with atleast letting everyone grove them...Theres another cost for everyone to buy new tires all summer...I myself buy used from midget guys... Now try to find a tire thats not groved...Good luck guys... ; )

11/10/09, 12:19 PM	#4 Re: amsa rules change
1200sprinter Posts: n/a	alternatively you could run alky get your car/driver to 970 and feel totally safe and be competitive right at the weight limit. I see what Jerry is doing and its very cool.............hes giving you the choice.

11/10/09, 12:38 PM	#5 Re: amsa rules change
STUMPS88 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 93	I run alki now and weigh in at 935lbs with my recent weight loss... ; )... Dont see me adding weight or see it being competitive with 900lbs car and driver..Best bet is switch to gas and be good with that...If i came down thats what id do... Throw in the gas bladder,switch my motor harness and injection and stumble on down... ; )

11/10/09, 1:06 PM	#6 Re: amsa rules change
mini27 Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 230	970 lbs for alky is way to much is stock is 900 lbs

11/10/09, 1:21 PM	#7 Re: amsa rules change
1200sprinter Posts: n/a	mini27 I dont understand your statement surely it depends on what you weigh?? If 970 is 'way too much" Im guessing you reckon stock at 900 will be faster? If so then you just saved yourself a bunch of money!

11/10/09, 1:44 PM	#9 Re: amsa rules change
1200sprinter Posts: n/a	I think a 750lbs car is totally achieveable without any carbon or titanium...........throw in a 150lbs kid and you got 900lbs................I know if I ran gas there is NO WAY I could get down that low so Im at 970 on alky.

11/10/09, 1:52 PM	#10 Re: amsa rules change
STUMPS88 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 93	1200sprinter... Get accsess to a mill and lathe... I machined everything i could on my car that wasnt a saftey structure,tossed the bailey motor plate,tossed the garden tractor battery,All aluminum hiems,did buy some hollow bolts...I was at 230lbs and weighed in at 963...FYI... Its alot of work... ; )... plus i run a full midget axle,1/2 radius ods/hiems,and bladder... If i ran a cheesey fuel cell and bailey front im sure to lose another 10/15lbs...