Does anyone know if I can run regular gasoline in a bladder that was used for Methanol?

Thanks in advance

[TQ29m]

Best I can tell you, is what the manufacturers tell you, don't do it! Bob

[grumpy racer]

Originally Posted by coleld Does anyone know if I can run regular gasoline in a bladder that was used for Methanol? Thanks in advance

No it will eat the material ,a gas bladder is a completly differant material. We sell both at Saldana racing products give dave a call.

[Larryoracing]

If you added one part racing gas (Octane 110) to 10 parts alcohol would your car run any faster?

My guess is that it would, but have never tried it. Guess I'm not a very good racers...lol!

Racers love to try stuff even if it sound dangerous. But I guess that is old school...lol!

Larry "O" and god bless you all and don't blow yourself up.

[jontheturboguy]

No. It will eat the bladder. How do I know? You should see what comes out of an IRL car's fuel cell when the "pickle" juice is left in the bladder too long.
BIG TIME $$$$$ MISTAKE. Toyota not happy.....

[Larryoracing]

Thanks for the information. You did mention about the fuel bladder before.

Will adding octane boost for normal/regular gas do anthing to alochol to improve power?

Thanks, was just curious and I have never tried it.

sincerely,

Larry Otani

[TQ29m]

Most organizations don't allow any additives, except an upper lube, in alcohol. Anything added to alcohol needs a "mixer", that allows them to mix, the specific gravities are different, so it either sits on top, or settles to the bottom, like water, which alcohol pulls from the air, too much water, and the specific gravity changes, and your out, doesn't make any difference if it's water or not, the std for alcohol is .79, water is 1.0, so if it is checked with a hydrometer, and it isn't within spec, you wasted a trip, and an evening. Bob

[Larryoracing]

Thanks Bob,

So it looks like I need to be a chemist next, to see what mixes with all these octane boosters. When was the last
time they took a hydrometer to the fuel tank? Just kidding.

A friend of mine showed me some stuff once. And I know it was a lubricant and I know it works. Why? I just
feel anything that reduces friction in a pump or goin' through the hoses decreasing friction has got to add HP to
your motor.

He put the stuff in an air drill and the motor just "sang"/spun like the dickens. So I know he is probably
right and that it would work in the alcohol. But I just can't remember the name of the stuff.

Sincerely,

Larry Otani

P.S. I was just wondering if that Zmax fuel lube for gasoline has a "mixer"? Then I could try it in the alcohol.

[TQ29m]

LarryO, there are a lot of blending agents available, most additives tho, are more fuel specific, than they once were, 2 cycles, for instance, the hot lubricant for those was Caster oil, but the best on the market, at the time, would settle out, so you had to make sure you kept it shook up, and mixed, now you just put it in, and more or less forget it. Those old airplane pilots, with the scarf around their neck, that wasn't for looks, it was so they could see, the early engines used what was then called, a total loss system, and all the castor oil that went to the rocker levers, was dumped into the prop wash, and blown onto the pilot, and the scarf was to wipe his goggles with. I wouldn't get my hopes up, on ZMax being a power additive, a good grade of gasoline has about all the additives in it, to keep your system running clean, and if it is a fairly late model engine, the computer will control it for you. In a race car, now, that is a different story, but there again, you use it, you could loose it, nitro methane is a real power booster, but there are more products that start with "nitro" than you can imagine, and not all are equal, and definitly not for amatures to be using, it's a whole different science in itself, so unless your organization, allows the use of power inhancers, just make sure you have good fuel, and if using alcohol, use an upper lube, I'd recommend Klotz Uplon, I've used it for years, with no problems, and if you can get some alcohol, with an SG lower than .79, say .77-.76, it will help. A simple way to ck alcohol, is to use a pint, glass jar, clear of course, add equal parts of alcohol and water, shake it to mix it, and if it's good stuff, by the time it takes to sit it down, is should be clear of any fog, should be sparkling clear. Bob

[Larryoracing]

Hey Bob,'

Thanks for all the great/wonderful information. What happens to the water when you shake it in alcohol.You say when you mix the two the 'cloud' will clear out before you set it down. What happened to the water? Did the alcohol absorb it?

That Klotz Upper lupe may be the ticket. I might just have to take a trip over to San Pedro Auto Body and ask
Big "D" what was that stuff anyhow you dump into the fuel tank...LOL?

I also had another question. How much of the upper lube are you suppose to use. I use that red stuff, $7.50 for a few ounces. It says a cap full per tank. But I thought you could dump more and maybe get a better/slippery lube in the fuel and promote a little more HP. I was wondering if you could dump a ratio of 1 part per 10 and get max results. That what they say with the octane boost, meaning to get max hp, you would dump one gallon of octane booster per 10 gallons of fuel. I have tried up to 3-4 cans of octane boost per 10 gallons. I did feel it helped with the HP, but I would foul the plugs and I was using those 6 dollar a piece spark plugs and didn't want to spend an arm and leg on spark plugs so I tried to keep it to 2-3 cans of octance boost if I wanted a little more power.

That octane boost is wonderful stuff. Well, I think so anyway. And I cannot bouch for Zmax fuel lube, but I swear by the oil additive. But every time I dump it into the FF Midget that 20.00 dollars and only good for two
races. I also believe in the synthetic 0 wt oil, but that about 7.50 dollars per quart and about $45.00 per oil change. So racing is expensive. Thanks again.

Larry "O"