Running a winged car wingless

SlideJob Jones · 8/14/09, 12:23 AM

Hi all!

I am a rookie, and plan on running mostly winged shows, but do want to give wingless a try.

I will be running the same front axle.....outside of lots less stagger in the rear, what other adjustments will I need to make? Thanks in advance.

6565 · 8/14/09, 11:05 AM

40" Eagle winged car

All I do is block the car lower (4" & 4 1/2 or 5" compared to 3" & 4"), less stagger like you said, heavier tie-down shock (s), and move the RR out further. I use an old -5 off wheel and pretty much have it all the way out on a long-spline axle. If I did it more than a few times a year, I would have a 52" front axle instead of the 50". So I just stay w/ the 50".

SprintRacer4 · 8/15/09, 2:49 AM

1000's left, 1025's right
straight 5 shocks across front & on RR. 4/7 LR
blocks: 3.5 front & 5 rear + 1 turn in RR
wheel spacing: LR - 13" RR - 20"
LR radius rod in lower mounting spud, RR in upper
this should give you a pretty consistent baseline, depending on what you like you could run a different shock package

not a whole lot different really, could get more extreme if you want to use a longer front axle, sway bars etc.

adjustments would pretty much be the same as they would with the wing i.e. shocks, wheel spacing & offsets, bars & turns in or out on each corner. some of the numbers are just different obviously

call the chassis builder & they can help ya more

SlideJob Jones · 8/18/09, 12:10 AM

Thanks guys!

SlideJob Jones · 8/3/10, 4:45 PM

Just a quick reply just short of the one year mark since asking....I got the car back out Sunday at Fremont, and gave wingless a try. WOW was it fun! I just went out to get laps and was pedaling to stay with but behind the pack, but think I might stick with this and give this a serious try.

TQ29m · 8/3/10, 8:51 PM

By golly, you might be on to something! Have at it. Bob

SlideJob Jones · 8/11/10, 3:58 PM

More fun than a barrel of monkeys.

tomkat · 12/2/10, 9:33 PM

this could be very helpful, bringing back up to keep it going ... I really have no mfr support here ('99 Stealth downtube 86/40) and no non-wing experience ... thanks in advance for any tips

8/14/09, 12:23 AM	Running a winged car wingless	#1
SlideJob Jones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38	Hi all! I am a rookie, and plan on running mostly winged shows, but do want to give wingless a try. I will be running the same front axle.....outside of lots less stagger in the rear, what other adjustments will I need to make? Thanks in advance.

8/14/09, 11:05 AM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#2
6565 Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 135	40" Eagle winged car All I do is block the car lower (4" & 4 1/2 or 5" compared to 3" & 4"), less stagger like you said, heavier tie-down shock (s), and move the RR out further. I use an old -5 off wheel and pretty much have it all the way out on a long-spline axle. If I did it more than a few times a year, I would have a 52" front axle instead of the 50". So I just stay w/ the 50".

8/15/09, 2:49 AM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#3
SprintRacer4 Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 144	1000's left, 1025's right straight 5 shocks across front & on RR. 4/7 LR blocks: 3.5 front & 5 rear + 1 turn in RR wheel spacing: LR - 13" RR - 20" LR radius rod in lower mounting spud, RR in upper this should give you a pretty consistent baseline, depending on what you like you could run a different shock package not a whole lot different really, could get more extreme if you want to use a longer front axle, sway bars etc. adjustments would pretty much be the same as they would with the wing i.e. shocks, wheel spacing & offsets, bars & turns in or out on each corner. some of the numbers are just different obviously call the chassis builder & they can help ya more _________________________________________________ Last edited by SprintRacer4; 8/15/09 at 2:52 AM.

8/18/09, 12:10 AM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#4
SlideJob Jones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38	Thanks guys!

8/3/10, 4:45 PM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#5
SlideJob Jones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38	Just a quick reply just short of the one year mark since asking....I got the car back out Sunday at Fremont, and gave wingless a try. WOW was it fun! I just went out to get laps and was pedaling to stay with but behind the pack, but think I might stick with this and give this a serious try.

8/3/10, 8:51 PM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#6
TQ29m Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 1,911	By golly, you might be on to something! Have at it. Bob __________________ "Being old, isn't half as much fun, as getting there"! Ole Robert I!

8/11/10, 3:58 PM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#7
SlideJob Jones Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 38	More fun than a barrel of monkeys.

12/2/10, 9:33 PM	Re: Running a winged car wingless	#8
tomkat Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Posts: 35	this could be very helpful, bringing back up to keep it going ... I really have no mfr support here ('99 Stealth downtube 86/40) and no non-wing experience ... thanks in advance for any tips _________________________________________________ Last edited by tomkat; 12/2/10 at 9:36 PM.