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8/18/19, 8:06 PM   #11
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Could the design of the car be the problem and not the track?

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8/18/19, 8:33 PM   #12
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Why is there such a double standard for Sato. He is always on the gas and driving hard.
Now if he was doing that same stuff and throwing "sliders" on a Saturday night. He would be a hero.
Wow,I hope your not serious! don't see to many 200mph. Sliders !
 
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8/18/19, 9:04 PM   #13
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Sato has always been a menace, and if he wadded up competitors at the same rate in a sprint car, he would be hugely unpopular in the pit area.
 
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8/18/19, 9:24 PM   #14
Re: Indycar - Pocono. NASTY wreck again. This one on 1st lap
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Okay, I'll play the Devil's Advocate here:

These boys are paid to go hard and go for the gap. There are seams in the track down the Long Pond Straight. They run the whole length of the straight and are perfectly parallel to the ones (on each side of them). If you watch the replay from Rossi's car, as Sato is coming past him, at a very high rate of speed, on the outside, and timing his move, Rossi's RF wheel can actually be seen going to the right, towards the wall, as noted by the seam in the track. Sato, coming down, maybe never figured Rossi would try and move right to set up his entry into Turn 2?

Sato is not an idiot. He is good. Take your non-American blindfolds off. And besides, unlike Rossi, he has nothing to lose for he is not in the championship run. Maybe Rossi should have used a little bit of head and breathed the throttle? Hell, it was only Lap 1 and he has a lot to lose.

These guys are going for all of the marbles. Had A.J. Foyt made a move like this 40 years ago, he would have been hailed a daredevil/hero/icon/badass.

Two sides to every story. Sometimes three. But Sato is a badass shoe. Far from an idiot.
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8/18/19, 11:54 PM   #15
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The interview with Hunter Ray says it all. They can not come from the rear and pass the field the way the cars are. So they all jump anything they can get from the start and any restart. TK said the same thing about starting in the rear. Power was lucky on the yellow timing.
 
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8/19/19, 10:44 AM   #16
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You are completely wrong about Rossi’s front tire going to the right!! And also there wasn’t even a hint of a gap!
 
8/19/19, 10:57 AM   #17
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I don't get the calls to leave Pocono. If racing left every track were a couple bad crashed happened at we'd have very few tracks left.
 
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8/19/19, 11:28 AM   #18
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Could the design of the car be the problem and not the track?

Lynn
I think you are onto something here. No one can breakaway due to the package & the "detuned" performance. The performance gap is nowhere near what it used to be so these starts/restarts when all are bunched up leads to super aggressive moves as it is hard to pick them off 1 at a time once the race gets going.

Add in the fact that sometimes guys screw up & you have a recipe for big pileups.
 
8/19/19, 11:55 AM   #19
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I don't get the calls to leave Pocono. If racing left every track were a couple bad crashed happened at we'd have very few tracks left.
When it comes to safety, we always say we need to learn from our past. The crash that we had yesterday was very similar to last years crash. We are just lucky that a driver was not hurt. All of the ingredients of a bad wreck were present. Two years in a row of a violent wreck is definitely a trend. I am not sure how you can watch any of the videos of Robert Wickens rehab and not be convinced that a change is needed.
 
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Indy cars have been at Pocono for many years and should absolutely stay there. Wickens wreck last year was 100 percent his fault and this years was Sato doing what he does best, driving over his head.
 
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