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Cobra 14 (Offline)
  #1 3/23/18 10:50 PM
I'm curious with D2 why it was decided to go with a 4 cyl and then spend $ to get HP.

With so many manufacturers making aluminum v6 engines up to 3.7l,surely cubic inches are the cheapest horsepower.

These engines are all over eBay. What am I missing?
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revjimk (Offline)
  #2 3/24/18 5:10 AM
Originally Posted by Cobra 14:
I'm curious with D2 why it was decided to go with a 4 cyl and then spend $ to get HP.

With so many manufacturers making aluminum v6 engines up to 3.7l,surely cubic inches are the cheapest horsepower.

These engines are all over eBay. What am I missing?
A seat on the rules committee?
Actually, i saw one in the pits at Chili Bowl, almost stock, low cost engine. Don't know how well he did tho....
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Cobra 14 (Offline)
  #3 3/24/18 5:37 AM
D2 needs to be aimed at blue collar racers.. It's pretty basic math.. The less it costs the more people can afford it.. The more cars come out to play.. Promoters are happier and purses increase.
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kendirt (Offline)
  #4 3/24/18 11:03 AM
Anyone ever notice the only thing less expensive on a D2 Midget is the engine? (potentially, somewehere there's a resourceful guy building a decent National engine for much less than them MWR motors)

Maybe if they'd think about a little bit harder tire and some shock restrictions the engines would kind of take care of themselves.
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the visitor (Offline)
  #5 3/24/18 7:24 PM
OH NO.......Here we go again !!!!!!
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Wayne Davis (Offline)
  #6 3/26/18 4:28 PM
Originally Posted by kendirt:
Anyone ever notice the only thing less expensive on a D2 Midget is the engine? (potentially, somewehere there's a resourceful guy building a decent National engine for much less than them MWR motors)

Maybe if they'd think about a little bit harder tire and some shock restrictions the engines would kind of take care of themselves.
This is already in the works (shock package) for 2019 for our group...if we as a series DO NOT take the bull by the horns and cut out some of this high $$ crap this D-2 will be come UN-affordable

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DAD (Offline)
  #7 3/26/18 5:29 PM
Love and Marriage>>>Racing and Money>>>Can't have one without the other. All the V6's would do is knock off about a half second a lap. Rules are for rich racers Guide lines are for blue collar folk. Stock block, with no alteration to valve & springs, cams, ports and lubrication system except for pans and pick-up. Limit the displacement to 3.7 liters and let the racers figure out what works best. Keep them aftermarket people scrambling.
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Cobra 14 (Offline)
  #8 3/26/18 6:14 PM
If the goal of the 2.4 racers is to try to have 300hp..don't spend $12k when ebay is full of v6 engines with forged cranks and rods straight from the factory for less than $2500 (already with 300hp)
The trick is to stop any modification on the v6 engines.. The only way I am see this happening is a claimer rule.

I even saw a reconditioned v6 for only 2500.

If you want to play.. Build a 2.4 and have them unlimited.(no tech) For budget racers, allow stock v6 with a claimer to keep the $$ away from these engines.
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The Old Coyote (Online)
  #9 3/26/18 6:49 PM

Real Race Cars Don't Have Fenders!
Ed
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Cobra 14 (Offline)
  #10 3/26/18 8:03 PM
Head in the sand is not an option.. Car counts are suffering, costs are beyond the reach of the true blue collar racer. A sustainable plan needs to happen. A reset that still allows existing cars needs to happen before more teams become disenfranchised and stop racing.
Wayne's Gator Nationals was a prime example. POWRI must be worried to allow Badger engines to help car count. D2 needs a vision beyond today. Let the national midgets be the F1 of midget racing. Let D2 belong to the working man.
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