Lawrenceburg draw needs a change

treecitytornado · 4/12/10, 3:20 PM

I want to start out by saying I had a great time racing at the Legendary Lawrenceburg Speedway Saturday night! The track was in great shape and was fast.

I do however have an issue with the original draw. I do like using the bingo ball mixer. That is fair. The unfair part is a low number should put you towards the front of a heat race and not towards the back. This is not the case with the way the draw is currently done

I drew the 6th lowest number of everyone Saturday night and should have started outside the front row of the 2nd heat with there being 4 heat races. Instead I started 6th in the first heat.

This is not right! You are going by the luck of the draw and trying to get a low number and then you penalize the guy when he does.

The American Sprint Car Tour will put the lowest pill on the pole of the first heat and the second lowest on the pole of the 2nd heat and so on.

I was told by the track official that my way and our ASCT way would not make a difference but it makes a huge difference!!

Please take a look at this and make a change for the fairness of everyone.

Thanks,

J.T. Stapp

quicktime3 · 4/12/10, 3:25 PM

Seriously?

DonMoore10 · 4/12/10, 3:33 PM

I've not heard of a track doing it the way Lawrenceburg does it.

The problem with the pill draw method at any track is that it's like going to a casino. How lucky or unlucky am I today?

I've brought this up on here before, but the drivers who finish in the first scheduled heat races as opposed to the later heat races also have an advantage where they start in either the feature or semi. For example, we raced a pill draw event a few years ago where we were tied with the same amount of points as a few other teams. The guy who had the same amount of points in the first heat race started on the feature pole and the guys in the last heat race with the same amount of points had to race the semi, and then hopefully transfer, but then they must start near the back.

Seems to me that Sandy Lowe came up with a solution to all the ties in points which eliminate two or more teams with the same number of points ending up in extreme places.

4/12/10, 3:33 PM

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Originally Posted by quicktime3

Seriously?

I agree,

BuckeyeBullet · 4/12/10, 3:50 PM

This thread makes my head hurt.

Shawn · 4/12/10, 3:50 PM

What if you went to Lawrenceburg Speedway hoping to pull a higher number, instead of a lower number? Do you think that would help?

spicoli · 4/12/10, 3:52 PM

WOW.

The luck of the draw doesn't fall your way, so you want the track to change their procedures just for you?

Well, aren't you just the special one!!

Andrew S. Quinn · 4/12/10, 3:58 PM

I'd get a dished hood. It will make you go faster,and you can then slice thru traffic...........:2::2::2::2:

sprinter25 · 4/12/10, 4:02 PM

Whether a low pill draw or a high pill draw places you in the back of a heat, who cares? It's all in the LUCK of the draw, anyway, and as long as every driver is treated the same way by any draw, the way the draw is administered becomes a moot point.

Don't like the draw? Race elsewhere.

Maybe a qualifying show at a track where the track dries out as qualifying progresses and the track slows down by 3/4 of a second towards the end of qualifying, and your pill draw for qualifying forces you to make your attempt late when you have no chance of setting a quick time....someone will always get affected by a pill draw!

quicktime3 · 4/12/10, 4:39 PM

I also have a hard time believing that 12 or more cars could tie in passing points in order to put one car on the pole and another in the semi. If they inverted six, and transferred 16, which is normal, that would be how many it would take. Maybe a little bit of exaggeration there?

4/12/10, 3:20 PM	#1 Lawrenceburg draw needs a change
treecitytornado Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 4,016	I want to start out by saying I had a great time racing at the Legendary Lawrenceburg Speedway Saturday night! The track was in great shape and was fast. I do however have an issue with the original draw. I do like using the bingo ball mixer. That is fair. The unfair part is a low number should put you towards the front of a heat race and not towards the back. This is not the case with the way the draw is currently done I drew the 6th lowest number of everyone Saturday night and should have started outside the front row of the 2nd heat with there being 4 heat races. Instead I started 6th in the first heat. This is not right! You are going by the luck of the draw and trying to get a low number and then you penalize the guy when he does. The American Sprint Car Tour will put the lowest pill on the pole of the first heat and the second lowest on the pole of the 2nd heat and so on. I was told by the track official that my way and our ASCT way would not make a difference but it makes a huge difference!! Please take a look at this and make a change for the fairness of everyone. Thanks, J.T. Stapp

4/12/10, 3:33 PM	#3 Re: Lawrenceburg draw needs a change
DonMoore10 Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,474	I've not heard of a track doing it the way Lawrenceburg does it. The problem with the pill draw method at any track is that it's like going to a casino. How lucky or unlucky am I today? I've brought this up on here before, but the drivers who finish in the first scheduled heat races as opposed to the later heat races also have an advantage where they start in either the feature or semi. For example, we raced a pill draw event a few years ago where we were tied with the same amount of points as a few other teams. The guy who had the same amount of points in the first heat race started on the feature pole and the guys in the last heat race with the same amount of points had to race the semi, and then hopefully transfer, but then they must start near the back. Seems to me that Sandy Lowe came up with a solution to all the ties in points which eliminate two or more teams with the same number of points ending up in extreme places.

4/12/10, 3:58 PM	#8 Re: Lawrenceburg draw needs a change
Andrew S. Quinn Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 4,173	I'd get a dished hood. It will make you go faster,and you can then slice thru traffic...........:2::2::2::2:

4/12/10, 4:39 PM	#10 Re: Lawrenceburg draw needs a change
quicktime3 Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Posts: 159	I also have a hard time believing that 12 or more cars could tie in passing points in order to put one car on the pole and another in the semi. If they inverted six, and transferred 16, which is normal, that would be how many it would take. Maybe a little bit of exaggeration there?