Just stirring S$#@ like to keep thing going. On a small track most midgets can't get low enough gear to run at peak. With our chains drive and trany's we can get down to 15 or 16 to 1 and squirt off the turnes.

Theres only three real race cars out there running weekly at least in my universe. Sprintcars, midgets and yes the lowly minisprinter, which with a stock 1400 jap engine weighting maybe 850 lbs or so would be in my opinion maybe the best of the three. By far the least expensive thats for sure, you'd have to be stupid or have the worse luck in the world if you were to break a engine.

I kinda wish the MSCS guys would but together A midget series to tour with the sprints. Not as much travel as USAC and generally speakin smaller tracks....set up a few rules to try to cut back some dollars and have at it!
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I have followed this thread from the very beginning. After 183 replies and 13,150 views, it is time for action. A lot of great thoughts and ideas that could work if the right person or persons could accumulate the data, put it into a workable foremat and present it to the powers to be at USAC, POWR I, Badger, etc for them to study. All of the posts in the world on IOW won't get this situation resolved. It needs to be presented to the sanctioning bodies for it to have a chance to become reality.

Since it has been stated on this board before, why not approach Harold Hunter, owner of Montpelier Motor Speedway. He is stated to have an interest in hosting weekly midget programs so why not try to get some of these changes in place for 2012 and prove that it can work. Somebody please step forward and make this happen. The world of midget racing is ready for change.

I posted this earlier. Not saying this is a perfect formula, but it's something to work from.

On the West Coast the Promoters/Sanctions out here agree some thing needs to be done , but no one wants to be the first to do it , I have only talked to a couple of the Indy area groups but they share the same concerns

I will stand at the front of the line to kick the door down LOLLL !!! of Promoters/Sanctions , but how many are willing to stand in line & help lead the charge ?

I posted this in the Midget Motors thread & I would add a alternate to Don Moore's tire rule , 10" LR Wheel 12" RR Wheel Open Tire rule , you start the Main Event on the RR Tire you Qualify or run the Heat race on

https://www.indianaopenwheel.com/showthread.php?t=52996

Re: Midget Motors

My first shot across the Bow is ....................

Start with the current USAC # 1050 & engine rules so you do not obsolete current equipment & let stock production car head & block engines 2.5 liter max run @ 1000 # like the Volkswagen is allowed

Lightning Sprint Chassis chain drive 1200 cc stock engine or 1000 cc with allowing one to modify which will yield about 200 Rear Wheel HP.
By my rough calculations this car should weigh about 850# to be competitive with a USAC Midget

Allow the Esslinger/RRE etc. spec engines in at a weight in between that makes them competitive also

This will allow for some innovation & give peeps a option of what they can afford, back yard engineer, buy used equipment or buy parts off the shelf

Then throw the Green Flag & Let Er Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiippppppppppppppp !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Sounds good to me we have room to grow mini sprint motors and get them more HP and still stay pretty stock. Im pretty sure I can put a fire-breather together for under $5000.00. All they have to do is get a rule book like yours 2 page maximum.

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850 lbs is a little light for a full size driver in a mini sprint. Japan has also developed some 1400 cc motor in the last few years that are a little low in rpm's but have gobs of torque. They eat the 1000 cc motor up on the drag strip. All cheater minisprinters have at least one back in the barn.

We can adjust this with some on track testing , but we need some numbers on who would be willing to show up under the various rules that have been proposed

Cuz that is gonna be the first ? outta the Promoters/Sanctions mouth LOLLLL !!!!!!

Ck with Bill May about tomorrow and next week at 35. He seems to be wide open and the guy at Mtpelier is also.

I do hope that the guys on 16th St are reading this. I think its encouraging to see this much cooperation and positive input. so just in case those guys ARE reading.....

HEY KEVIN! MY NUMBER IS 805-238-3930. CALL ME!