[davex]

Out of curiosity, If there is so many cars sitting and a majority wanting another club to form, why don't you just run for president of the club and turn things around on how you think it should be since you could make the changes. If that many people are going to support you with your new club, they would support you in voting for you for president. I really don't see how there would be enough TQ's to divide them up in different groups. Car count and TQ racing would both suffer, run for president and make the changes you think would improve the club and keep all the cars together in one show for greater car counts, better racing, and more fanbase.

[STP]

Originally Posted by jrhgramps I agree with Racefan, a club that has been around for 48 years must be doing something right. This club has grown by leaps and bounds in the last few years, as far as car count, and fan popularity. The economy this year has hurt alot of racing clubs. This club is maintaining its traditions as well as growing, they are racing Rushville and some of the fairs as well as some of the finest tracks in Indiana. I do not have a problem with competition if it is done for the right reasons and not sour grapes. Some people always get down on consistent winners. My questions to STP would be what are your qualifications to run a racing association? Have you been a car owner, a track owner or a promoter? Would just like some more info!!

My qualifications are that I have built a multi-million dollar business from $500. I know what it takes to run a business and it's surrounding yourself with good people. I may not have experience as a promoter, driver or owner. I do have many people who have lots of racing experience from many aspects that are working together to get TQ racing back to what it was. I have 100% faith in them and their intentions.

The economy isn't hurting TQ racing, judging from the number car owners and drivers that have contacted me. There are enough to run 3 or 4 clubs with lots more interested in building new cars. TQ racing isn't that expensive and I plan on having higher purses to make it worth it.

Feel free to ask if you have other questions. I want to make the sport of racing better.

[Shawn]

I totally agree with the tradition that UMRA brings to the table. It would be sad to see it go, but some things change. In my opinion, they've had plenty of time to fix the issues that have caused this situation. It's not something that's just being brought up after one race, or even one season.

There are times where these "traditions" become "history". It's like Winston Cup becoming Nextel Cup, then Sprint Cup. It's like Great American Ballpark replacing Wrigley Field, or even Yankee Stadium being replaced. You've got to keep up with the times and make changes, but that's where they sometimes struggle.

I do have to give credit to UMRA's president for one thing. He's put UMRA into some of the best tracks in Indiana. I like the guy and all of this is not on him, but it's the series as a whole.

Car counts have been down, but it's not all about the economy. It's about being tired of everything coming down to what a certain team wants, in a round about way. It's about teams being tired of all the drama that this team creates, but yet nothing is done about it. UMRA has always had big car counts, so that's out of the question. They used to have fifty-plus cars at some races, so that's not a good argument.

Finally, I think some people on this board were at the UCS race in '04, when the sprints races there. They saw a certain driver get his spot back more than once! It's those types of things being done that drive teams and fans away from UMRA, honestly. That's why there's ANY interest in a new series...

[STP]

Originally Posted by davex Out of curiosity, If there is so many cars sitting and a majority wanting another club to form, why don't you just run for president of the club and turn things around on how you think it should be since you could make the changes. If that many people are going to support you with your new club, they would support you in voting for you for president. I really don't see how there would be enough TQ's to divide them up in different groups. Car count and TQ racing would both suffer, run for president and make the changes you think would improve the club and keep all the cars together in one show for greater car counts, better racing, and more fanbase.

I'm smart enough to know that won't work. It would have worked if the membership still voted but now the board makes those decisions.

[yamaha]

After watching your husband cuss out the flagman in front of all those fans and getting escorted out by the police was classic. I hope your not the same way! Im guessing you will never be at anderson speedway racing. So are you saying this series will not be the kenny byrge show? just wait you will see what I mean

[TQ2M]

Last time I checked UMRA is a democracy. If the pool of cars is divided neither series will survive. If you believe you have the answer to bringing sportsmanship back to T.Q. racing do it with the UMRA brand name that has thrived at times since 1961.
I would be very curious how you plan to discriminate aginst "green" race cars yet allow open compitition?
Joe Monroe
(owner with a parked car)

[Shawn]

I didn't know it took "The Green Cars" to make competition. I'm pretty sure that a new series would have competition, even if "The Green Cars" aren't in attendance.

On that note, I would love to see the UMRA name continue, but I'm just not sure that it can happen. I would also agree that two series might not be a good thing, but that's only if half the cars would choose to stay with UMRA. I'm not sold that it would happen.

[STP]

Originally Posted by yamaha After watching your husband cuss out the flagman in front of all those fans and getting escorted out by the police was classic. I hope your not the same way! Im guessing you will never be at anderson speedway racing. So are you saying this series will not be the kenny byrge show? just wait you will see what I mean

My husband was very upset because he thought Tate was badly hurt. The facts are that the police did not escort him out. They came over to talk to him and realized the situation. I called Anderson Speedway to apologize and I want to apologize publicly for what happened. I don't condone that behavior and neither does my husband.

It's not going to be any one driver racing league. It's going to be a competive series comprised of race teams who want to race in an honest way.

[767]

Originally Posted by Shawn I also read where someone said that the Goff's sell tickets. Are you kidding me?! I know quite a few people that don't go to UMRA events, simply because of how the series is run and the Goff's. UMRA has not and will not stand up to the Goff's, especially Terry. UMRA's made their bed, so let them sleep in it. If my thought's are correct, they won't have a bed in a year or two.

Sean call me out directly, I know we don't see eye to eye. Next year at the fair stop down in turn 1 and 2 I will introduce you to 2 truck loads of people there just to hate the goffs. U know the group that terry and oggy flip off just as soon as they spin. Maybe rushville is just a weird place. My Main point in that post was you can not write drivers out of a series. you get rid of them by enforceing your rules. Yes there are alot of ******** in this sport, and yes I agree they are killing it. You will gain much more respect by getting rid of the bad apples by enforceing your rules. I have seen this same story in many other SMALL raceing circles and its crazy, everyone is all talk until someone like STP actually takes a step and makes something happen. SO now we will see what happens here. If STP getts everything put together, who will actually cross that line? No need to reply here just cross the line at the first race next year. O and sean maybe you should take a bit more positive stance on Union County, a track like that (ONCE MADE SAFE) could really give a new series the boost it needs. One of the things that most fans do not realize is the power play that umra has with getting races booked.

[TqMidget41&84]

UMRA did not get into Union County because of its power to schedule races. It was done by several local racers in that area, and the invite back was jeopardized when the calls were not made and positions were given back when they should not have been. Billy at Union County was not happy when his crowd was booing after the feature event.
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