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8/13/16, 4:18 PM   #1
Lack of cars on pavement
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Usac has done a fantastic job of rebuilding their Silver Crown program on dirt, but for some reason it is not working with the pavement.I know you used to have two cars. One for pavement and one for dirt. If this is still the case their is the problem.Same car on both dirt and pavement. End of story. Same car runs at Springfield runs at Salem.I remember many back to back races at Eldora and New Bremen. It is not that difficult.Minor adjustments and you are ready.If someone else has a better explanation for this please post.
 
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8/13/16, 4:30 PM   #2
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What if teams don't want to change over and run pavement?
 
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8/13/16, 4:41 PM   #3
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What if teams don't want to change over and run pavement?
Then nothing changes.
 
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8/13/16, 4:44 PM   #4
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Why don't they Brent. The car makes nothing when it is just sitting. No cost of tire argument either, have a spec tire rule. More importantly,why don't they want to run pavement.
 
8/13/16, 4:51 PM   #5
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You can get nearly 40 cars on dirt now. Yet only 13 at Salem. Those cars are out there .There is a reason they are not running. Again, someone tell me if you have to have a pavement car to be "competitive". Bring out your dirt car . You are going to finish in the top 15 it seems.Are entry fees so high and the purses so different from a mile to a half. I think they are, but to that extent.Someone please post a well thought out reply.
 
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8/13/16, 4:58 PM   #6
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You can get nearly 40 cars on dirt now. Yet only 13 at Salem. Those cars are out there .There is a reason they are not running. Again, someone tell me if you have to have a pavement car to be "competitive". Bring out your dirt car . You are going to finish in the top 15 it seems.Are entry fees so high and the purses so different from a mile to a half. I think they are, but to that extent.Someone please post a well thought out reply.
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8/13/16, 5:01 PM   #7
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8/13/16, 5:12 PM   #8
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The costs of running pavement, first of all, tires in particular. You heat cycle a pavement tire and it will never be competitive again, so you're down two sets a night minimum. Most teams that do run pavement also test. More tires, more money. So eliminate testing you'll say. It's such a different animal from a car stand point and a driving standpoint, If you're just starting to run pavement you'll never be competitive against the pavement specialists who've done it for years without testing. Times have change, most of today's dirt silver crown cars are just longer dirt sprint cars with big tanks. Wouldn't even be feasible to run them on pavement, and perhaps not even safe. It's a catch 22. Between the death of all other pavement there's no opportunities for laps and with the expense and for the same reasons it's why the other series have died. Fan counts at these races aren't what they are on dirt, but nobody is going to watch 13 cars in which maybe 5 are competitive. And not very many people are going to go through the time and expenses to run 10-20.
 
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8/13/16, 5:19 PM   #9
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Number ! Many looked at the radar.
Number 2 It's not a mile track
Number 3 Cost of tires
Number 4 The car makes nothing even if it races. It always loses, Cost of towing, fuel, motor rebuilds, tires etc etc.
5 Most teams can only field one car and most chose dirt.
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8/13/16, 5:27 PM   #10
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You have so many different parts you have to use on pavement versus a dirt car. So using same car is out if the question. There are several dirt owners who are contemplating pavement cars. Just need USAC to make sure it stays. It does cost more for pavement as well. If someone out there wants to help, then help get a sponsor for the series.
 
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