[dshort36]

Originally Posted by revjimk Glad you survived. Not everyone does...

The CDC has reported that only 6% of covid related deaths are a direct result of covid. The rest were from underlying conditions. Survival rate is over 99%. There were 1.3 million people killed in car accidents. U should really pay attention to others than cnn

[dshort36]

Originally Posted by revjimk False....https://www.statnews.com/2020/10/20/...aths-covid-19/

This is totally false u can find anything you want if you try hard enough your just an idiot

[thunder31]

I see and hear enough of this bickering back and forth everyday about Covid when I turn on my TV or look at social media. Can you all please get it off of Indianaopenwheel. Or go scream at a wall because it will accomplish the same thing. Looking forward to going racing in 2021. Thank you.

[Stevensville Mike]

IOW fans, allow me to intervene and call a truce.

Our good friend Jonr started this thread to inquire when and how we all might go about attending races in 2021 during these unprecidented times of this issue. As this issue unfolded in the Spring here in the United States of America, and Indiana (which I am still honored to be allowed to cross the northern border) it changed our lives and status quo much like other issues of past years - 9/11, smoking in public, seat belts, etc. Eventually we adjust and move on in one way shape or form.

But we all come to this forum started by out late friend Mr. Gardner, whom I have never met, and kept up by Mrs. G, The First Lady of Dirt (I say that as as a compliment - honest) as race fans. As race fans will be, one will be rooting for this driver, another for that driver, and somewhere in the grandstand there is always someone who is rooting for all drivers and a good race.

We are at that point in this thread. Politically, we have the left and the right. Pandemic-wise, we have the same thing - one side of the issue and the other side of the issue, all going about dealing with this in our own way. As in ********, we are very divided in our beliefs, as we are with the issue at hand noted by the original poster of this thread. When divided as such in any manner, reaching a resolution can be extremely difficult, but not impossible.

We are all fans of the sport and as fans together, right & left, pro & con, wing & non-wing, dirt & pavement, we are going to have our differences. Let's take a deep breath and respect the opinions of the "other" fan. You may not LIKE that opinion, but that opinion is real and present.

Let us be better than slinging crap at each other here. If one wishes to do that, by all means go over to another forum that starts with an H where it is performed regularly.

It is the holiday season, IOW fans. But more importantly, it is the human season. That season runs all year long.

Please.... no accolades for this post. Let's just get back together, on track, and at the track as we deem fit.

I will now go start my grill out in the driveway. He's one of my best buds. We've been through thick and thin and many a track. Just like a lot of us here on IOW. Thank god grills cannot talk.

[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by revjimk "1/2 or more of covid reported deaths are not because of it"???? Lets see some proof....

Half in my county already had advanced cancer or were in hospice already but counted as covid deaths. Warren Co. Oh.

[sp6967]

lets jump over covid and talk gynecology. since racing isn't much of a topic.

[captrat]

Originally Posted by dshort36 The CDC has reported that only 6% of covid related deaths are a direct result of covid. The rest were from underlying conditions. Survival rate is over 99%. There were 1.3 million people killed in car accidents. U should really pay attention to others than cnn

You are missing the point of Covid deaths. You may be right on the number of Direct but what about those who had underlying conditions that were exacerbated by Covid to the point of death. Let me give you a real life analogy. My father developed diabetes late in his life. While awaiting surgery related to his diabetes he unexpectedly passed a few hours prior to surgery. On his death certificate the cause of death was cardiac arrest. Consulting with his doctors it was clear that technically the cause was cardiac arrest but that was a result of his underlying health issue of diabetes just as Covid has done to over 300K fellow Americans.

[captrat]

Originally Posted by dshort36 I’ll tell you what’s real. People not having money to eat or pay their rent and utilities. Children not getting the education they deserve. Small business owners goin bankrupt and losing everything they have. Increasing suicides People in Washington not missing a paycheck This is what’s real !!!

That is also correct, just like 300K Related Covid deaths.

[dshort36]

🙏

[PJ Wright]

Originally Posted by Stevensville Mike IOW fans, allow me to intervene and call a truce. Our good friend Jonr started this thread to inquire when and how we all might go about attending races in 2021 during these unprecidented times of this issue. As this issue unfolded in the Spring here in the United States of America, and Indiana (which I am still honored to be allowed to cross the northern border) it changed our lives and status quo much like other issues of past years - 9/11, smoking in public, seat belts, etc. Eventually we adjust and move on in one way shape or form. But we all come to this forum started by out late friend Mr. Gardner, whom I have never met, and kept up by Mrs. G, The First Lady of Dirt (I say that as as a compliment - honest) as race fans. As race fans will be, one will be rooting for this driver, another for that driver, and somewhere in the grandstand there is always someone who is rooting for all drivers and a good race. We are at that point in this thread. Politically, we have the left and the right. Pandemic-wise, we have the same thing - one side of the issue and the other side of the issue, all going about dealing with this in our own way. As in ********, we are very divided in our beliefs, as we are with the issue at hand noted by the original poster of this thread. When divided as such in any manner, reaching a resolution can be extremely difficult, but not impossible. We are all fans of the sport and as fans together, right & left, pro & con, wing & non-wing, dirt & pavement, we are going to have our differences. Let's take a deep breath and respect the opinions of the "other" fan. You may not LIKE that opinion, but that opinion is real and present. Let us be better than slinging crap at each other here. If one wishes to do that, by all means go over to another forum that starts with an H where it is performed regularly. It is the holiday season, IOW fans. But more importantly, it is the human season. That season runs all year long. Please.... no accolades for this post. Let's just get back together, on track, and at the track as we deem fit. I will now go start my grill out in the driveway. He's one of my best buds. We've been through thick and thin and many a track. Just like a lot of us here on IOW. Thank god grills cannot talk.

I'm going to post this emoji because it's appropriate for this thread. I sure hope it doesn't touch off an arguement over the horse's cause of death.