[Charles Nungester]

Originally Posted by JMA1181 What are you referencing that pays $800 for second?

Weekly shows

[kinser]

Originally Posted by Charles Nungester Honestly what's needed is for the tracks to race half as much alternating and pay 3-4K every week And USAC to go to a 8-10K normal show. And the rest of the positions to pay more as well. The 800 for second place and it cost them a thousand in travel, fuel and tires is only keeping them home. Don't know nothing, Just a keyboard jockey but it's a suggestion. not a order.

On a typical night this is what we have in the trailer : 2 right rears @ 330.00 each. 3 left rears @ 375.00 each. So we have 1845.00 worth of tires at the current prices. We try to run each tire as many times as possible depending on the wear. So if the price increase is 30.00 like I’m hearing that just cost us another 150.00 for the same amount of tires.

[richie]

Originally Posted by openwheelfan1 Will we see some of those $8,000 and up to win events drop to the USAC norm of $5,000 to win?

What is the "norm" anyways?

2023 USAC National Sprint Car events:

$30,000-to-win (1 event)

$20,000-to-win (2 events)

$12,000-to-win (1 event)

$10,000-to-win (10 events)

$8,000-to-win (7 events)

$6,000-to-win (10 events)

$5,000-to-win (7 events)

[Hubie48]

Thanks for this, it is why I hit "liked." Not crazy about the payout or the points. I would like to see more emphasis on winning.


2023 USAC National Sprint Car events:

$30,000-to-win (1 event)

$20,000-to-win (2 events)

$12,000-to-win (1 event)

$10,000-to-win (10 events)

$8,000-to-win (7 events)

$6,000-to-win (10 events)

$5,000-to-win (7 events)

[JJMooney]

Not mentioned anywhere is that the Midwest Sprint Car Series was actually started by Chase Stockon’s grandfather, Sam Stockon, before the Helfrich’s acquired the series.

When the MSCS first got off the ground in 2001, Sam’s original plan was for it to be a low-buck series. I was at that first MSCS race. It took place at Fayette County Speedway, Brownstown IL on May 4, 2001. There were 17 cars. I believe it paid $500 to win, maybe $800. Drivers that I remember there were Donnie and Leon Gentry, Kenny Carmichael and Kenny Jr, Patrick and Craig Budde, Al Caton, and eventual feature winner, Travis Thompson. And in a bit of trivia, the UMP modified race that night was won by Shane Cottle.

With Sam Stockon at the helm the first 3-4 years, the MSCS went to many different tracks: Flora IL, Kentucky Lake, Macon IL, Farmington MO, Danville IL, Jacksonville IL, Bluegrass KY, Windy Hallow KY, Soggy Bottom KY, Madisonville KY. I remember there were some really off-the-wall places the series visited. Within a couple of years, a separate MSCS steel block-only series was created. I believe Chase’s first laps were run in that steel block division.

A huge thank to both Sam Stockon for his original vision and Tom Helfrich for carrying on the series and transforming it. The MSCS played a big role in non-wing sprint car racing in the Midwest. And some of the most memorable races at Haubstadt will forever be MSCS shows. There were some absolutely GREAT races. It’ll forever be a huge part of Haubstadt’s history.

I’m sad to see the MSCS go away. I know things change. I’m just happy to have seen it.

[JakeCroxton]

I was flagging in Lincoln, IL when Sam brought the MSCS Steel Block series in for one of the first times...I believe that was one of the first times Chase sat in a non-wing car at 12 or 13 years old...

[B99]

I wonder if Kevin Newton's new winged series won't come in and fill in some of the void.

[oppweld]

What void is that? I'm sure Haubstadt will run about the same number of races, as for the few other dates maybe BOSS can run a few more Indiana dates.

[Keith Ford]

Does anyone really know how MSCS got started. Paragon Speedway was running a class of non wing sprints called Paragon sprints Sam Stockon liked the idea & format and took his series MSCS on the road. While we are fine tuning facts Indiana Sprint week & USAC needs looked into on how they married up. Call me anytime Keith Ford