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8/26/08, 3:49 PM   #41
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I'm smart enough to know that won't work. It would have worked if the membership still voted but now the board makes those decisions.
The membership votes for the board of directors in U.M.R.A.(Now I suppose that is rigged also)
 
8/26/08, 3:54 PM   #42
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I didn't know it took "The Green Cars" to make competition. I'm pretty sure that a new series would have competition, even if "The Green Cars" aren't in attendance.

On that note, I would love to see the UMRA name continue, but I'm just not sure that it can happen. I would also agree that two series might not be a good thing, but that's only if half the cars would choose to stay with UMRA. I'm not sold that it would happen.
They won't allow the "Green" cars!!! That way the competition is eliminated.(Sounds like a fair racing organization to me)
 
8/26/08, 3:58 PM   #43
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My husband was very upset because he thought Tate was badly hurt. The facts are that the police did not escort him out. They came over to talk to him and realized the situation. I called Anderson Speedway to apologize and I want to apologize publicly for what happened. I don't condone that behavior and neither does my husband.

It's not going to be any one driver racing league. It's going to be a competive series comprised of race teams who want to race in an honest way.
Honest!!!( If you don't allow all legal cars to race how can you call it honest)Tq2M has the right idea!!Why don't you run for U.M.R.A. president.Travis is not running again so this is your Golden Opportunity!!!
 
8/26/08, 4:02 PM   #44
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UMRA did not get into Union County because of its power to schedule races. It was done by several local racers in that area, and the invite back was jeopardized when the calls were not made and positions were given back when they should not have been. Billy at Union County was not happy when his crowd was booing after the feature event.
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U.M.R.A.Raced at Union county speedway long before you "Local" racers were even involved in the club (Nice try at patting yourself on the back!!!)
 
8/26/08, 4:07 PM   #45
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In reply to STP's qualifications, you have accomplished alot. I believe that anyone that has ever been fully involved in racing from the ground up will agree that it is a completely different animal. There is an oldtimers term "grandstand racer" this refers to people that have never actually lived the racing life but think they could do it better. As someone said this happened with CART and IRL and almost destroyed open wheel racing on that level. If you sincerely have the good of racing in your heart you should think of working with a long established and respected club that is a democracy to make it make even more progress rather than tearing it down for what appears to be some grudges held.
I agree 100% (Nicely said)
 
8/26/08, 4:24 PM   #46
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The membership votes for the board of directors in U.M.R.A.(Now I suppose that is rigged also)
No thanks, Ms. Brock. The great thing about America is that we have the freedom to make choices. I have made my choice. It's not an against the green car thing. It's about bringing TQ racing to a new and improved level for serious racers who have respect for racing. I found a demand for something and I'm creating a solution.

Good luck to you and the UMRA.
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8/26/08, 4:28 PM   #47
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Sandy, UMRA was in bad shape in 1982 when your Dad took control. He was allowed to do it his way, picking his own board members and put the club in a position to prosper through the late 90's. I don't know of a person with the skills or the need (he made his living buliding T.Q.'s) that could pull that off today.
Our oppinions differ on what happened in '93. I was on that board. I did not vote to suspend the Goffs based on eliminating compitition. They had two public, front straightaway displays in two races and had been suspended for short periods in prior seasons with no effect on their beheivor. A longer suspension was the next step. Sadly it only made the situatuation worse.
On the subject of eliminating competition. Do you recall that in 1986 we lost our 2stroke powered "roadster" in a one of these emotionaly driven decisions.

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Right there is the problem with U.M.R.A. All other competitors in the club are dealt with on a per incident level.If they don't have a problem again until next year then it is all forgotten.I have seen many times over the years where the problems with the Goff's are considered as a whole in other words when a problem comes up that should be a small deal All other small problems from all previous years are also brought up.This is wrong!!! It should be on a per incident level with all competitors.
 
8/26/08, 4:39 PM   #48
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No thanks, Ms. Brock. The great thing about America is that we have the freedom to make choices. I have made my choice. It's not an against the green car thing. It's about bringing TQ racing to a new and improved level for serious racers who have respect for racing. I found a demand for something and I'm creating a solution.

Good luck to you and the UMRA.
Sorry to tell you that it is not Mrs.Brock(but i'm sure that she would agree with a lot of what I am saying) You use the word "respect" in your organization.I doubt that anyone who would want to race in your organization would have any "respect" for you if you are not allowing all legal cars (regardless of color and last name of drivers)to race in your series.The word you should be using is "disgrace"
 
8/26/08, 4:49 PM   #49
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Sorry to tell you that it is not Mrs.Brock(but i'm sure that she would agree with a lot of what I am saying) You use the word "respect" in your organization.I doubt that anyone who would want to race in your organization would have any "respect" for you if you are not allowing all legal cars (regardless of color and last name of drivers)to race in your series.The word you should be using is "disgrace"
If the goff's really want to race in the league this badly, then have them fill out a registration form when we get them back from our legal team and we'll go from there. Geez.
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8/26/08, 5:11 PM   #50
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If the goff's really want to race in the league this badly, then have them fill out a registration form when we get them back from our legal team and we'll go from there. Geez.
Geez!!! You are the one on the Tate Martz post that said they would not be allowed.Are we now going to allow them???? Or is that one of your rules that will have to be ammended in your new rulebook???
 
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