Jim, I wish I could agree with you, but I can't bring myself to do it. I really believe, had this happened back when we had packed shows, and packed pits, you couldn't have built enough TQ's to supply the demand. Problem then was, there was, only one place/organization, to run a TQ, and when we were only startin 16-18 cars in a feature, and had as high as 65 cars in the pits, we sent a lot of good cars, and people home, and it didn't take much of that, to discourage any further growth, and it went down, quicker than the Titanic. I really think people are happier, now, they have a choice of where and whom to run with, there is also the option of an almost only pavement series, and we still have all the old places to run, now, we need to focus on helping bring in some new owners/drivers, I realize the ones we lost during the time we were sending 40+ cars home, with little more than 8 laps in a heat race, and a few practice laps, and nothing to stuff in your blue jeans, someone ask you if you won, how were you going to explain it to them, how you were lucky just to get in the pits, and make a few practice laps, and get out with your hide, let alone WIN anything! The TQ race car, is still the only other option, if you want to build your own cars, engines, run whatever tires you want, and try something, that is available thru a rule book that doesn't say you can't do anything yourself, it's closer to running a sprint car, as far as engines go, you can make as much Hp as you want, as long as it fits the rule book, it's a lot like the open class in a lot of other series, you have a box to work in, and it doesn't make any difference how you get there, you can be your own man, there is a cc limit on engines, and how you get there doesn't matter, as long as it fits, there are specs on the chassis that are kept within the bounderies, tires, as long as they are either 10" or 13", and the tread width fits, AR, Hoosier, any compound YOU want to run, is up to YOU, I still think it's the thing to do, if you want to race, and do your own work, and I'm sure there are alot that will disagree with what I just wrote, but if you'll study it well, as you should before you buy any kind of race car, I think you'll find TQ racing, as good as it gets! Bob!