ossuks (Offline)
#91
8/1/17 8:12 AM
The number of cars that are competitive in the Silver Crown is what? 6 or 7 ? there are 3-5 start and parks from guys that try to help the series and pick up some pocket money! Then a few that really lack the resources to finish within 3-5 laps of the leaders.
I think the answer is tire cost.....I have been away from the "inside" for quite some time, but guessing tire bills for those that do it 1st class around $1800 or more (note 1st class). This directly relates to the slower cars that use used tires. The majority of the cars are Beast chassis that are very similar, so it comes down to HP/SHOCKS/Tires and Talent! HP/Shocks cost very similar dirt to pavement....so we are down to the cost of tires? Now, I am not blaming tire company's, I have no clue what it cost to manufacture, transport, ect, tires to the track?
I do not have the remedy but I do believe the tire cost is the #1 reason for the low car counts in all forms of pavement racing. To pay $2000 to start ( $2000 would cover tire bill, fuel, transportation, pit pass, registration) and $10,000 to win to a 20 car field would need a purse in the neighborhood of $53000!! I don't think the fan base is big enough to make this happen?
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david mitchell (Offline)
#92
8/1/17 8:43 AM
Andy hillenberg rebuilt the usac dirt silver crown division,someone needs to be found who can do the exact mirror image for pavement.they are out there.who is it.that is the question.hillenburg,sorry andy.the job you did for usac silver crown racing is one of the truly remarkable achievements in recent memory.if you read this forum ,is there a way to do the same thing for pavement.
Avon Open Wheel fan (Offline)
#94
8/1/17 9:57 AM
Lots of these ideas we already are using in the ILLINI midget series. We allow the national engine's with a restrictor plate even though we are mostly a Ecotec 2.4L stock engine series. Have a one set tire rule using American Racers full set cost $375.
LRP36 (Offline)
#97
8/1/17 10:46 PM
If you do it right on pavement you can get by with one set of new tires a race which is just under $800...
ossuks (Offline)
#98
8/2/17 8:38 AM
Not every owner has a Bobby Santos!!
david mitchell (Offline)
#99
8/2/17 11:49 AM
As far as tire prices go,can you say gouging.i think i know who gets rich in this racing business.with power comes dictating and control.i don't like the purple.
1121 (Offline)
#100
8/2/17 12:21 PM
We have run winged pavement sprint cars since 1990. When a first started, yes, we just threw some coil overs on our dirt car, a right front brake and went for it. As things progressed, we bought a pavement car, but we've always had a dirt car also. But here's a little tidbit for you tire "experts."
In 1990, a Hoosier right rear cost about $160. And the fast guys put a new one on every night. We were running for $200 to start.
Now, a Hoosier right rear cost $212 and we get $500 to start.
Recently, the Auto Value Super Sprints opened up the tire rule to allow American Racer tires. They even offered a $200 bonus on a couple of races if you started the feature on all four American Racers. I think we had two extra cars show up.
To me, it spoke volumes. It's not the tires.
Tom Paterson
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