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Originally Posted by Brickyard Not really. Several truths to what you're finally dealing with: While I fully respect the desire to sit in a certain place due to a long line of family members holding a certain seating area, at the same time if I really sit down and think about it, do I really need the seat if I'm paying that much? Would I love to sit in E stand and those decks above the turns? Absolutely. Am I going to pay those prices. Hell no and I'm certainly not going to allow that to keep from going, I'll find a cheaper option. Does any ticket you purchase mandate that you camp at the track or stay at hotel five minutes down the road? Nope. What's wrong with finding a hotel or camp site and hour out? I've done that on many occasion and my wallet thanked me for it. Sometimes the prices to these things are us making it higher than it need be.

If I can't sit where I want, I don't go period. While you may pay less; if I am putting my time and money into attending any event, seat choice is one thing I don't cheap out on. A poor seat ruins the experience; but some folks don't care as long as they got a good deal. I just don't get it.

Hotel, food, everything else is where I try to save my money.

Originally Posted by racer-x Between the Arca race and that Bush race yesterday I'm not sure how anyone would want to go to a race live when it takes over a hour just to watch the last 10 laps of caution and restarts.

Another thing I just do not understand. Why would anyone be upset over the race officials trying end the event under green? So it takes a while sometimes; so what I'm already there and bought the ticket give me a finish. If I'm watching on TV I've already invested 2+ hours of my life, give me a finish.

And when short tracks guys say it; which is where I almost always hear it... it befundles me. Because short track/dirt track races never end under yellow except in case of weather. It honestly ranks right up there with NASCAR fans standing during the D%%% race.

Originally Posted by Aces&Eights I don't think the money is the issue, but the difference in enthusiasm between younger and older drivers is to me, experience. Everything that use to make NASCAR exciting is gone, but the headaches and ******** have only increased. It use to require skill and experience to wheel a Cup car around, but now that so much technology has been allowed in, that at tracks like Daytona/Talledega all you need to do is hold your foot down and race by simply getting in someone else's way. The cars use to be difficult to manage, a heavy handful. Now they hire spokes models and teach them to operate a car at high speeds, but not how to race. The engines rarely blow, the tires rarely go flat and the cars are so tough you can bang on them all day. The 600 at Charlotte use to be one of my favorites because of the endurance factor on car and driver, now its just too long. They need to take it back to factory engines, not purpose built engineering marvels, but the same engine that comes in your truck. Go back to bias ply tires with NO inner liner. Lastly do away with spoilers, air dams, restrictor plates, bump stops and go back to 8 inch wide tires from the 60's. 2 car team max. There is more, but I'm bored with their whole disgusting show.

Some ideas I like, and some that don't make sense to me. The idea I really like is going back to bias ply tires and narrowing them up. But there is no reason to not have an inner liner; just a safety feature.

Related not related; I don't know why the heck passenger car tires don't have inner liners.