For4 you didnt piss me off, you just couldnt seem to get the point that we still like to root for and talk about openwheel drivers that have moved on to other series. No big deal. BTW, if you are who I think you are(and it would help if you posted your real name like most of the regulars around here) I consider myself a friend of your son, have him introduce you sometime. I'll be at Kokomo both nights for the klash