Pocono track
 

Guns don't kill people ,people do .
Pocono race track doesn't cause crashes , Indy drivers do !

Well, it started in the early 60's. How long does it take to realize a heat seaking missile with 4 tires probably doesn't belong on a 2 mile oval? or bigger? In Europe the rear engine machines always run on a road/street course, an opportunity to slow down. In the United States we just blast around wide open and hope for the best. Read your history books and you'll learn England closed there oval almost immediately.

And another anti oval

Get some euros and attend the parades F1 is famous for.

Rich, are you suggesting we do away with the Indianapolis 500?

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Since Indy went mostly non oval. I've lost total interest. Really I don't even care for the Nascar road courses
Like Andretti said with Michael, John and the others, We race sprints first because it teaches you how to race.

Actually,if memory serves, there are many ovals of various length still in Europe

i wish they would have sent the 1st rear engine car at Indy home. But, you cannot unring that bell. Can you imagine what the front engine cars would look like today?

I guess you must have forgot about the IndyCar oval races IN ENGLAND from this century. No need to read a history book when we have it visually archived on YouTube:
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=6xpp_mMh7Ro

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Well, Rich, here is a shot of Jim Hurtubise and the Mallard from 1972, what I believe was the last front engine car to run in the series we now know as IndyCar:

https://i.postimg.cc/dQBKDfjm/1972-mallard.jpg


The nose is very much like the rear engine cars of the day. So, skinny the nose up, widen the front wing, tweak the back end like an IndyCar today, and then find a way to get a slim turbocharged engine in front of the driver with the driveshaft running between his legs. Or offset it so the shaft is to his left? However, that might not bode well for road courses. :)

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I guess I don't have a problem with the speed of the cars on the larger tracks, and I do at times, enjoy the variety of ovals, and road courses, what I don't like, and who am I, are the street courses, they are to me, a waste of time, mine and theirs, and the equipment, you take a lay down go-kart to the high banks of Daytona, as I have, you instantly get the feeling of speed, is it dangerous, absolutely, did it bother me, no, yes, we ran the road course, but the speed on the parts of the oval that we ran, were definatly there, so based on that, I don't really see a problem, I think back to all of the street races we ran, and then unmask the things that were covered with plywood and hay bales, it brings to mind a real thought of probably not being a smart thing to do, but, that was what we did, we loved it, and it paid nothing, a trophy if you are lucky, but you paid every dime that was spent. just sayin!

Thanks Mike. Pretty sure that's what we all long for, show up at the track in May and see what everyone has been working on all winter. every car unique. Oh well, guess the current formula is cheaper for the owner's.

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Just saw a quote from the great Mario Andretti on a Twitter post. This is not verbatim but close. He said “Pocono is not for sissies. It would be a big mistake for Indy Car to leave.” In my opinion, case closed!

This is the Twitter post I saw