USAC Competitors Meeting
 

Did anything come out of this meeting? Any rules updates, etc?

Purse increases?

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Change in format so the majority of the night doesn't come down to one qualifying lap?

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Running the B and transferring means you start at tail of A. No reason should start ahead of anyone who transfers through their heat. :6:

Except that doesn't work because you handicap the guys who qualified well by starting 2 spots out of a transfer and on some tracks it's hard to pass in the heats. The format produces some good racing because those fast guys have to pass atleast 2 cars to make the top 6 for the invert.

One change that was discussed is the heat winners will start in positions 7-10, then the rest of the field filed in after them. I'm not sure if that change is going to take effect or not but that would give the slower qualifiers who start on the front of the heat have a chance to get a better starting position in the feature if they win the heat. We will see.

But look at the last 2 championships they have both come down to the last race. Everyone is racing for the heat positions anyway because they award points and as we have seen every point matters.

This debate comes up every year and there is no perfect format but what USAC is doing seems to work and produces good racing so I don't see much of a need to change. Every format out there has it's pros and cons, and every one will have a difference on which one they like best.

1. Without compromising safety, address the body panel issue. Also handout some paint that is not black. 😁

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Great Statement!

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Maybe I missed it, do fast cars start in the front of the heats?

Nope quick time starts 6th, they take 4. Top 24 in qualifying are inverted for heat races.

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While this format may make the heat races slightly more interesting it gives anyone who has a bad qualifying outing a huge disadvantage. I agree the guys who qualify quick shouldn't be punished so invert the top 4 instead then race straight up from that point on. Or go to a passing points style system. In my opinion every co-sanctioned USAC race ive been to that runs by the other series rules 9 times out of 10 turns out to be a better race all in.

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But look at the last 2 championships they have both come down to the last race. Everyone is racing for the heat positions anyway because they award points and as we have seen every point matters

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No complaints on the heat racing action. Just the fact that 2 laps likely decide your whole night. Or when a track changes throughout qualifying and you're on the wrong end of the change no matter what you do the rest of the night you cant make up for you qualifying times.

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Isnt that why they went to qualifying flights when they had alot(over 32 I think but not sure the exact number) of cars?

These are USAC national series races, you have to be on your game when you drop that trailer door. You get 2 laps, if you messed up the first one you better have learned from your mistake and make up for it on lap 2.

Leave well enough.the format has changed way too much already.

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Yes, but I believe the flights start with the 37th car then they are divided accordingly.
That was the format for the ISW shows but also think this is now a precedent for car counts above 36.

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Also with the flights as I understand it, which I could certainly be wrong, the flights determine lineups for their respective heats however feature lineup goes back to overall times amongst the whole field meaning it really changes nothing for the feature.

yes, That is correct, as I have it scored.

Perhaps I misunderstand your post. The heats have the first 6 positions inverted,the fastest qualifier starting 6th. In the feature the fastest 6 from heats who make it by finishing in top 4 are also inverted. Only the B do they start straight up.

Here are my records from ISW#3 at Kokomo with 40 cars entered. There is an A & B flight. This only applies to the heat line ups afterwards all entries are folded back together as one and are lined up in the Semi & Feature according to Qualifying shown in my next post.

Semi and Feature
ISW#3 at Kokomo