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molikotigo 12/18/19 5:41 PM
Re: USAC Competitors Meeting
 
But look at the last 2 championships they have both come down to the last race. Everyone is racing for the heat positions anyway because they award points and as we have seen every point matters

cl124 12/18/19 6:15 PM
Re: USAC Competitors Meeting
 
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Originally Posted by molikotigo (Post 523899)
But look at the last 2 championships they have both come down to the last race. Everyone is racing for the heat positions anyway because they award points and as we have seen every point matters
No complaints on the heat racing action. Just the fact that 2 laps likely decide your whole night. Or when a track changes throughout qualifying and you're on the wrong end of the change no matter what you do the rest of the night you cant make up for you qualifying times.

racefan20 12/18/19 7:27 PM
Re: USAC Competitors Meeting
 
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Originally Posted by cl124 (Post 523900)
No complaints on the heat racing action. Just the fact that 2 laps likely decide your whole night. Or when a track changes throughout qualifying and you're on the wrong end of the change no matter what you do the rest of the night you cant make up for you qualifying times.
Isnt that why they went to qualifying flights when they had alot(over 32 I think but not sure the exact number) of cars?

on_the_edge 12/18/19 8:21 PM
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Originally Posted by cl124 (Post 523898)
While this format may make the heat races slightly more interesting it gives anyone who has a bad qualifying outing a huge disadvantage. I agree the guys who qualify quick shouldn't be punished so invert the top 4 instead then race straight up from that point on. Or go to a passing points style system. In my opinion every co-sanctioned USAC race ive been to that runs by the other series rules 9 times out of 10 turns out to be a better race all in.
These are USAC national series races, you have to be on your game when you drop that trailer door. You get 2 laps, if you messed up the first one you better have learned from your mistake and make up for it on lap 2.

sp6967 12/18/19 9:57 PM
Leave well enough.the format has changed way too much already.

Indy1808 12/19/19 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by racefan20 (Post 523901)
Isnt that why they went to qualifying flights when they had alot(over 32 I think but not sure the exact number) of cars?
Yes, but I believe the flights start with the 37th car then they are divided accordingly.
That was the format for the ISW shows but also think this is now a precedent for car counts above 36.

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cl124 12/20/19 11:52 AM
Re: USAC Competitors Meeting
 
Also with the flights as I understand it, which I could certainly be wrong, the flights determine lineups for their respective heats however feature lineup goes back to overall times amongst the whole field meaning it really changes nothing for the feature.

Indy1808 12/20/19 4:38 PM
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Originally Posted by cl124 (Post 523940)
Also with the flights as I understand it, which I could certainly be wrong, the flights determine lineups for their respective heats however feature lineup goes back to overall times amongst the whole field meaning it really changes nothing for the feature.
yes, That is correct, as I have it scored.

captrat 12/21/19 5:03 PM
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Originally Posted by cl124 (Post 523898)
While this format may make the heat races slightly more interesting it gives anyone who has a bad qualifying outing a huge disadvantage. I agree the guys who qualify quick shouldn't be punished so invert the top 4 instead then race straight up from that point on. Or go to a passing points style system. In my opinion every co-sanctioned USAC race ive been to that runs by the other series rules 9 times out of 10 turns out to be a better race all in.
Perhaps I misunderstand your post. The heats have the first 6 positions inverted,the fastest qualifier starting 6th. In the feature the fastest 6 from heats who make it by finishing in top 4 are also inverted. Only the B do they start straight up.

Indy1808 12/21/19 7:21 PM
Here are my records from ISW#3 at Kokomo with 40 cars entered. There is an A & B flight. This only applies to the heat line ups afterwards all entries are folded back together as one and are lined up in the Semi & Feature according to Qualifying shown in my next post.


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