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pretty bummed out to not see Tri-State on the schedule.

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Is their schedule finalized? I’ve seen this before where they list many dates and TSS is not on there, but is eventually added when Tommy puts out the schedule. Yes I will be very bummed if we don’t get a date.

Well after reading the release, it does in fact look like TSS is left out. Looks like they are out west, when they are usually cruising through here. Maybe the last few years battling the rain in the Spring was a factor?

I noticed they had a WoO LM show this year. Thought that was a good addition but not at the cost of missing out on the sprints.

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We all love Kokomo; but IMO, in terms of the racing only, if we could only get one of TSS or Kokomo I think TSS is the place for the World of Outlaws. The paperclip turns made it wide open for non-wing guys, low budget wing guys. etc that no track can match. Jacksonville & Kokomo's size and layout bridges the gap, but nothing like Tri-State does in allowing the guys to fight for wins.

Did I see a TBA in October? Guess we got shot down on that thought didn't we Chief.

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Good eye Dan. Maybe they will stop on way to Kokomo. Fingers crossed.

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The TBA race on Oct 17 is the day after being at Lakeside,KS. Doubt they will haul to Indiana the next night.

http://www.sprintcarratings.com/Series.aspx?Series=WoO

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That TBA is on the back of a Kansas race; so while it is possible they could swing back to TSS that night I don't think it's incredibly likely.

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According to TSS, The Outlaws could not find a place in their schedule this year for them.

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i went to a WoO race at Tri-State a few years ago and watched tractors work the track more than sprint cars race. They had modifieds too. lose lose.

Rich M

I simply dont understand this argument. It's rare that any track does not run a support division; and many run a "worse" class than Modifieds.

And while it's fine to say you don't enjoy the tractor show, but to point to it as a reason to not attend to me is absurd because otherwise they run a tight organized show and still get the races over at a decent hour.

Speaking more generally now, I've been to many track run more classes on a big night on a worse track surface and still take a half hour break with the track just sitting their while it starts to get late. Now that's something to complain about.

I’ll take the tractor show any day for the surface and the racing provided by Tri State. I’m still amazed every time I hear someone complaining about it. I’m glad to see a WOO Kokomo date but an October 24 date is dubious in my book. Definitely a crap shoot weather wise then. I hope it works

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my biggest take-away from Knoxville this year was they didn't touch the track after hot laps. all 4 nights the track did pretty much the same thing. it can be done. no support division either.

p.s. Nappanee has a wonderful steam tractor show in September. well worth a visit.

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I agree, I was excited when I read Kokomo was back on the WoO schedule. Then I saw the date and thought that is a poor choice to run that late in the season. It will be a week after the Klash, which is often a very cold event with lows near freezing. I hope they will try for an early start.

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I have only been to Knoxville once, but the time I was there the first heat race was best race of the night cuz track was still wet and loose , but after that race track was getting hard and what I call blue grooved, and slick. when you run 2 classes of sprint cars ( they also run a 305 class) you don"t need mods then. When I"m at TTS and see the green tractors come on to the track I SMILE cuz I know what kind of track the sprints get to run on and what kind of show I"m about to see :8:

I just Haubstadt wasn’t 250 miles from my house

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Your damn straight Jim! Other tracks should take notes from the Helfrich’s on track prep. I bet if you ask the drivers they are pretty happy their right rear looks great after the race and that tire is ready for the next track. I just don’t get why people complain about track prep, when you know the feature is going to be bad ass. I’ll second the earlier comment about dead time between races when they could be preparing the track.

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Chief How long do you think it takes Tommy and crew to rework the track 15 to 20 minutes? I"ve been to some tracks were it takes that long between heat races. Once again some people bit^h about hung with a new rope. :D

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Knoxville is a completely different track than Haubstadt. Different tracks need different things to put on the best show possible. You can’t just say track a should do it this way because that’s how track b does it

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Yes, Knoxville is a different race track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cL-dVvdqbGo

p.s. I-55 has been on the schedule on that weekend for many many years. Iron Man 55 is a bad-ass race. They do a tractor show there too

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Does anyone actually know what the size of Haubstadt is? It has always looked smaller than a 1/4 mile to me.

Pevely is one of the best tracks on the schedule and the Ironman is a great race.

The WoO usually has a spring race scheduled there that 2 out of 3 times will get rained out. They didn’t schedule the spring race this year.

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280 miles for me!

:D

ThePurple73, Haubstadt is 1/4, just tight turns with long straightaways. If you wanna get technical, you gotta use Google Earth, like Johnny Gibson, WoO Announcer did. Springfield is actually bigger than a mile & Rolling Wheels is under a 5/8, along with Eldora & Volusia being a little under a 1/2, so the All-time Dirt Sprint Car Speed record rests with Sammy Swindell again, just like it did for many years from Syracuse, then Billy Pauch had it for awhile at the last WoO show at Syracuse in 1994.

Didn’t they outlaws run there again in 2010? I wish I could find some footage of it, all I can seem to dig up is an on board of Chad Kemenah, which is still pretty cool to see.

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Tommy"s dad Ed told me years ago that Haubstadt is a quarter around the outside wall :8:

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As we age we all get bigger around the middle :5:

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Using google earth measuring tool, it says 0.27 around the top about where the cushion would be, and more around the center it showed 0.24.

hoosierboy3, I watched the video again of Chad Kemenah & Jason Sides, just Hot Lapping. I'm 99.9% sure that's all it amounted to. WoO Sprint Cars last actual race on a Mile was a Springfield in 1998. Last actual race at Syracuse was 1994. Last Indy Mile race was the 1st U.S. Dirt Nationals in 1992, which I witnessed. Then that race moved to Terre Haute for another year or two.

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If you get Haubstadt up in Google map you can see the track at the school and the race track at the same time. School tracks are usually 400 meters or 440 yards or a quarter mile, usually have a football field in the middle. It looks like the race track with outer wall, would fit inside the running track at the school.

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Better than the 800 from mine. . ..