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D.O. 12/16/14 2:01 PM

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D.A. S house was raided according to ch 6 news as well as the Putnam Sherriffs office. I saw this the other day and thought D.A.? Then it was confirmed on tv.. All I can say is wow! Ch 6 showed his big house on their report

Charles Nungester 12/16/14 2:39 PM

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Karma?

mc/rider 12/16/14 2:45 PM

D.a.?

k41l 12/16/14 2:48 PM

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a.k.a The worst promoter in the history of Lincoln park speedway, or possibly any race track ever.

bigq11 12/16/14 4:54 PM

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Does he technically still own LPS at this point. I hope nothing can come back to effect Joe's agreement with him. It would be a shame to see anything slow down the great progress Joe has made.

Avon Open Wheel fan 12/16/14 5:38 PM

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Originally Posted by bigq11 (Post 400453)
Does he technically still own LPS at this point. I hope nothing can come back to effect Joe's agreement with him. It would be a shame to see anything slow down the great progress Joe has made.

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I certainly hope that Joe now owns LPS. He has invested way too much money and hard work to lose it to something like this.

racefan20 12/16/14 6:30 PM

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Think DA still owns it, Joe was doing a rent to buy

Dirtfan 12/16/14 7:05 PM

WTHR 13 Reports Homeland Security is involved as well.

Jerry Shaw 12/16/14 7:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 400464)
WTHR 13 Reports Homeland Security is involved as well.

FBI ans DHS. It looks like somebody could definitely be in a world of s**t.

PIT CART 12/16/14 8:39 PM

I hate asking but what they charging him with? Poor guy, suns out tracks drying , fans and cars are here let's call it a rain out!!

D.O. 12/17/14 2:17 AM

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Looking into 1.1 million to build a firehouse where he is the fire chief that was suppose to be finished long ago and built to agreed specs. Homeland was wanting to know why the delay in building with the grant they gave him. That all was on the news on ch6 and ch 59 and ch 13. Show pictures of his big house and big garage. Behind that is a big stock car race shop and landscaping. I'm sure more to come on the tv news.

chrismattlin 12/17/14 10:49 AM

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Isn't this the intended purpose of courts? Why the heavy-handed raid by spooks? Was there a danger to the public?

I know this guy is no model citizen, but the police-state is out of control.

Charles Nungester 12/17/14 11:21 AM

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While certainty no fan of D.A. You would be surprised by the number of raids. Searches confiscations and seizures by Govt agencies in the last six years.

OFTEN WITH NO EXPLANATION GIVEN or charges filed!

scottyCbus 12/17/14 11:25 AM

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Just another black eye for our great sport! :7:

cowboyhar69 12/17/14 1:48 PM

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http://www.indystar.com/story/news/f...ison/20523601/

cleatziff 12/17/14 2:49 PM

No this is not the job of the courts. The courts job is to interpret laws. The job of the police is to enforce the laws. When the police believe a crime has been committed they collect evidence to support this belief. If they determine no crime has been committed the evidence is returned to its rightful owner. If enough evidence exists to show that a crime has been committed the evidence is presented before the court. The court interprets the laws, looks at the evidence and determines if a crime has been committed. If the court, and a jury of our peers determines a crime has been committed the court then determines the punishment. Is D.A. A threat to the public? I suppose it depends on your view. I am by no means saying D.A is a ********. He has not been convicted of anything. But anyone who commits a crime is generally considered a threat. That is why there are laws to address these crimes. If an issue is not a threat to society it would not be against societies laws. On a side note referring to police as spooks is pretty rude. Cops have a tough and dangerous job enforcing the laws that society has put in place.

Pat O'Connor Fan 12/17/14 4:11 PM

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Folks who piss and moan about the "spooks" sure will call them for help when its needed !

mlamb 12/17/14 4:24 PM

Hey Charles I've had no searches or seizures against me…prolly because I'm a law abiding citizen? If I did have…I certainly believe the authorities are not obligated to tell everyone why. If you play by the rules you won't have any problems. I applaud the police for what they do.

SPD 37 12/17/14 6:28 PM

"Police state out of control" really, well, the next time you need help from a police officer, don't call them, they are "out of control" maybe you should call a "crackhead" for help and see how much help you get!!

A lot of cops, in the US, are killed weekly by someone who was not considered a "threat".

Courts don't interpret the law, they determine if probable cause existed at the time someone was arrested. And, all are innocent until proven guilty, then if found guilty, or a plea agreement is reached then the courts determine sentencing.

"Belief a crime was committed" really not just a belief, normally based on witness statements, facts obtained through the investigation, forensic evidence, such as sources of DNA, fingerprints, and other types of evidence that may show a particular person(s) committed a crime, much more than a belief.

If someone's residence or vehicle or other property is searched, by law enforcement, with a search warrant, why then a neutral and detached judge found probable cause exited for the officers to conduct such search. If probable cause doesn't exist, then the search warrant is not signed. Judges don't just sign search warrants for the heck of it. If the police show up at your house, with a search warrant, minus the wrong address, and it happens police officers are human, you can bet you, or someone at that property committed a crime or that property has been used to facilitate ******** activity.

Information given to the media on active investigations is very limited for a good reason. If the investigation is pending, the police don't want all the details and facts given to the public, cause as the case progresses, you wouldn't know if someone really is a witness or did they see it on the news or in the paper? It could really compromise an investigation.

So, in the difficult profession of law enforcement, please take the time to consider the information above, and remember the men and women in law enforcement who are willing to help citizens in their areas, and are often forced to make very quick life or death decisions and often give their lives doing so.

SPD 37

sprntr 12/17/14 6:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SPD 37 (Post 400570)
A lot of cops, in the US, are killed weekly by someone who was not considered a "threat".

In 2014, so far, 110 Peace Officers have been killed in the "Line of Duty", about half of which were caused by an intentional act of another person. Not exactly "A lot ... killed weekly by someone who was not considered a "threat"".

Line of Duty Deaths: 110
Assault: 2
Automobile accident: 25
Drowned: 1
Fire: 1
Gunfire: 43
Gunfire (Accidental): 2
Heart attack: 15
Motorcycle accident: 3
Struck by vehicle: 3
Vehicle pursuit: 5
Vehicular assault: 10

Read more: http://www.odmp.org/search/year/2014#ixzz3MCIOtKsJ

I appreciate the service that most Law Enforcement personnel provide. Sadly, there are some who abuse the power that we have entrusted them with.

Nate 12/17/14 7:26 PM

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Just an opinion here but lets try to keep focused on things pertinent to IOW and not argue about subjects having to do with whatever # amendment right or a Ferguson type situation. Not trying to start beef with anyone ya'll are welcome to argue about what ever, but just remember what this site is for. The original post had at least some relation to the open wheel community but some of this stuff...ehh

SPD 37 12/17/14 7:28 PM

Not exactly a lot ? Tell that to the friends, families, and loved ones of those 110 killed!!

I agree, there are some bad officers, but there's bad people in a lot of different jobs.

sprntr 12/17/14 7:30 PM

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Not exactly a lot WEEKLY as you claimed.

IndySprintCar 12/17/14 7:56 PM

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The problem isn't LEO's. The problem is there are too many damn laws.

Charles Nungester 12/17/14 8:14 PM

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Originally Posted by mlamb (Post 400563)
Hey Charles I've had no searches or seizures against me…prolly because I'm a law abiding citizen? If I did have…I certainly believe the authorities are not obligated to tell everyone why. If you play by the rules you won't have any problems. I applaud the police for what they do.

My dad was a Officer. I got every respect. Im a law abieder as well. But getting audited 4 times in the last five years over one $30 mistake in taxes is IMHO harassment.

I wasn't talking about Police, I was talking Govt agencies. 99.8 percent of the Police are trying to do the job the best they can and Id prefer they didn't have to walk on pins and needles to do that job and protect themselves if needed..

1121 12/17/14 9:03 PM

I'm working late and was reading this before I went home. It got me curious. A quick Google search revealed that according to the FBI, 49,851 police officers were assulted in 2013. 29.2% of these (or 14,556 officers)were injured. Or almost 40 a day.
I've run Eldora, Winchester and Salem. I'm too big of a wimp to be a cop.

Tom Paterson


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