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Jrp4554 7/7/14 7:44 PM

Just wondering what start times were and format. I know it's the Dwenger memorial so I didn't know what it paid to start or win. Any details are appreciated. Thanks

treecitytornado 7/7/14 11:00 PM

Pits Open at 4 before you can come earlier and park
Hot Laps at 630
Quals at 7
Racing around 8.
25 Lap Feature.
Fly over, special National Anthem, Kids Bicycle Races to win New Bikes, former Dwenger drivers from the past coming out to the track, and much more!
Come out and honor a great racing family!!
I will be the Announcer for the evening too!
Thanks,
J.T. Stapp

DAD 7/11/14 8:56 AM

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How about the results from last night?

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

24midgets 7/11/14 10:27 AM

It was long and drawed out .but would of got my moneys worth if aj felker would of raced feature.but he bump a few guys in heat race .and that didn't go over so well with a few.but if the guys he hit would set the car and get on the gas maybe they would not got hit.

treecitytornado 7/11/14 10:31 AM

Ronnie Combs was your Dwenger Memorial 25 Lap Feature Winner! He got the lead from Tristan Maggart about halfway through and never looked back. The track kept getting faster as the night went on. Combs turned the fast lap of the race at a 16.386, only a tenth off the track record! Eric Fehrman was the Dash and a Heat Winner. Johnny Goff was the other Heat Winner. Behind Combs in the feature were, Johnny Goff, Eric Fehrman, and Anton Hernandez. More results will be posted on the UMRA website soon. I had a blast announcing and look forward to doing it some more.
Thanks,
J.T. Stapp

DAD 7/11/14 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by DAD (Post 383110)
How about the results from last night?

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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That bring back to memory the last time Tony raced with UMRA down at a little race track in Chandler Indiana, a guy in front of him brake checked him and got spun out in the process (very Obvious) so they put AJ on the tail and let the other racer remain on the pole. It was sure an exciting time in the Grand Stands that night the entire crowd was up waving their arms and booing the results of that race.

They have what you would call a "living rule book" they simply make the rules up according to who is involved and what suits their purpose at that point in time.

Tony is a very aggressive driver that is what is required to win in most forms of racing. These guys remind me of the post about car colors. Winning the race is no where near as important to them as preventing a scratch on their Beautiful "No Go Show Boat Race Car".:5::5: In this case apparently "a thorn of experience" in the form of newly formed TQ racing groups has not deterred them from their original core beliefs how they should run their races.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

badcoupe 7/11/14 12:32 PM

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I wasn't there last night, but I know in the past when he ran TQ's he was rather reckless. He was fun to watch but tore up a lot of people's cars in the process, we always called him banzai!. DAD, he had a similar situation in rushville years ago driving for the great Jim Berry. They tried to black flag him off the track for roughing up a Goff car. He stayed out and lapped the field for the heck of it. How many cars last night?

flatout18 7/11/14 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by badcoupe (Post 383169)
I wasn't there last night, but I know in the past when he ran TQ's he was rather reckless. He was fun to watch but tore up a lot of people's cars in the process, we always called him banzai!. DAD, he had a similar situation in rushville years ago driving for the great Jim Berry. They tried to black flag him off the track for roughing up a Goff car. He stayed out and lapped the field for the heck of it. How many cars last night?

They had 16 I think.

DAD 7/11/14 1:06 PM

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Bad

I didn't mention any names. Jim and AJ were probably the perfect combination. AJ also drove for me for many years. I expected him to race hard and clean and for the most part that is what he did. Racing needs competitors like this, like the guy said it makes for a much better race. They also have vintage races that allow you to get out on the track and drive around so that people can admire your beautiful race car. Tony races at about about 110% put that with someone racing at 75% and fur sometimes flies. The fans are out to watch a race with good competitive racers that can race one another wheel to wheel. That is what we need in the lower classes. Wish I could think of that little track down in Kentucky but I thought I was going to be in the middle of a riot that night. That brings people back to the race track. Tony raced with the MMSA last week at Columbus and put on one heck of a show also.

I think USAC called him "Mr. Excitement" If things weren't moving along fast enough he would do his darndest to get them moving. I understood that the powers that be last night would not give him back his starting spot in the Main so the decision was made to pull the plug.

I would guess that UMRA only has about 4 or 5 cars capable of winning the main. Can you imagine the race they could put on if they started these guys on the tail of the Main and let them race one another as they raced through the field for the lead.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

AFR37X 7/11/14 1:41 PM

Is (a lot) 2 or 10? I don't remember it like that. I never put anyone on there head. Only bent 1 axle for Jim in the 5 years I race for him. Rushville it was Jason Willis not goff car. 15 cars lastnight when I race Rushville in 2000 there 61 in the pits. Tq's need 1 club again to make it. That's my take. I thought after being outta the seat for 12 years it be different, guess not.

TQ29m 7/11/14 2:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AFR37X (Post 383180)
Is (a lot) 2 or 10? I don't remember it like that. I never put anyone on there head. Only bent 1 axle for Jim in the 5 years I race for him. Rushville it was Jason Willis not goff car. 15 cars lastnight when I race Rushville in 2000 there 61 in the pits. Tq's need 1 club again to make it. That's my take. I thought after being outta the seat for 12 years it be different, guess not.

OK, you had your 2 cents worth, I'll add mine, and it may or may not be accepted by anyone but me, but I'm going to add it anyway. You are right, it was Jason Willis, and I didn't agree with the call, you guys were just doin some close racin on a small track, and from where I was, seemed like the opinion was about split. Things get really close, when there isn't much of a track to race on, so some contact is to be expected, the group I was standing with thought the call was bad. So much for that, here's another one that will have a lot of heat, I think the best thing that has happened to TQ racing in the time since the car counts of as high as 66, is the fact that we now have a choice of where we want to race, I watched kart racing over the years, have it's ups and downs, and it was always down when there were too many racers, and not enough places to race, it doesn't take long for the romance to end, when you are sending over 60% of the car count home, week after week, with no sign of the mix changing much, barring the economy, we have it now, as good as it's ever been, as far as I am concerned, if we'd show up at a track with 5 other divisions there, and 80% of the fans there to watch something else, it'd be the same thing all over again, no place to race, not because of the quality, just too many cars for the track to absorb! Lets try to keep what we got, we can go with 3 different organizations now, and still put, most of the time, at least 24 cars in the pits, that's what it takes to make these cars grow again, not trying to run them all together. That's my 2 cents worth, and it's what I truly believe, no BS or fancy footwork, just the facts! Bob

DAD 7/11/14 3:48 PM

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Bob

With the three clubs you have now if you can get a car count of 15 to 20 cars you can give the fans a pretty good race. The only thing 66 cars is good for is to let the promoter know that he isn't going to go in the hole putting on a race. That is called racing with back gate money. Those 30 or so who never make it to a main are soon going to loose interest and quit. A 25 car field sounds great to me like old Chris E. would say let them all start. Why not make the race 5 laps longer and pay passing bucks instead of passing points, like $10.00 or $15.00 bucks a car + the position pay. Drop the payoff down all the way back and let them race for their money. Offer to let the hot dogs start on the tail if they wish and in our case race for $200.00 to win + passing bucks. If you started 20th spot passed 19 cars the pay out would be $200.00 for first + $284.00 in passing bucks or a grand total of $484.00 to win. Conversely if you moved back there would be a deduct. Here is where we need one of them math majors. But it would make a better race, and the fights afterwards would be epic!:D

"COMPETITION" is the best thing we have going for us. Be it hamburger joints, race drivers, race cars, engine builders or for that matter even Racing Organizations. Competition makes us all better at what we do, without it we are all doomed to an existence of mediocrity. The weak will fall back and the strong will move ahead.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:


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