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racerjim2 7/13/11 7:27 PM

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WOO (World of Outlaws) had late model racer Jimmy Mars take a polygraph test concerning his tires that were on his car last week during a win at Lernerville Speedway in Pa. The tires passed the test and so did the driver. He was declared the winner a week later. Is this unreal or what?:5::10:

mikeham73 7/13/11 7:35 PM

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Originally Posted by racerjim2 (Post 240930)
WOO (World of Outlaws) had late model racer Jimmy Mars take a polygraph test concerning his tires that were on his car last week during a win at Lernerville Speedway in Pa. The tires passed the test and so did the driver. He was declared the winner a week later. Is this unreal or what?:5::10:

Wow...I am at a loss for words. :11:

Jim Gardner 7/13/11 7:48 PM

The race was on tv last weekend. I believe it was from Lincoln PA. Bloomquist protested saying that Mars was the only fast car on that particular compound.
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short track scott 7/13/11 7:50 PM

That is great. Post race tech to include a quick interrogation of a drivers actions, intent and equipment concerns.

The results will be on the next 'Maury'. And "you ARE the father!"

I know it was something about tires with Mars and the Scott Bloomquist.

What would they have done if he didn't take the test?
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Bad Dad 54 7/13/11 7:59 PM

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Did the officials shine a flaslight in his eye, sodium pentathol next? Vee haf veys uv making u talk :7:

McInturff Racing 7/13/11 8:12 PM

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Hmmm, an interrogation technique that is not even admissible in court as evidence. Seems that WoO is setting a dangerous precedent. The next time they pull that and a driver fails they will have their a.s.s in a sling.

Barney 7/13/11 8:49 PM

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Nothing surprises me out of them.

DWX 9929 7/13/11 8:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Bad Dad 54 (Post 240940)
Did the officials shine a flaslight in his eye, sodium pentathol next? Vee haf veys uv making u talk :7:

Waterboarding could be an option.

racerdog45 7/13/11 9:03 PM

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bloomer was crying and whining BIG time, I lost what little respect I had for him YEARS ago and nothing surprises me anymore out of him....

SteveD 7/13/11 9:09 PM

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WOO>WOR (World of Rules)

dant 7/13/11 11:26 PM

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Can you imagine Smokey Yunick on the lie detector..........racing is working the grey in the rules ..obviously Mars didn't soak his tires ..legal win..but I don't see anything wrong with protesting with in the rules ..keeps everything fair

lazyifoto 7/14/11 4:34 AM

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It is Bull ....But the next time it may be Bloomer and he will have to take the lie detector testing or that maybe a forfeit of the win???
I believe this has gone TOO far though....whats next??? calling his mommy?

IndyBound 7/14/11 9:39 AM

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Originally Posted by racerdog45 (Post 240974)
bloomer was crying and whining BIG time, I lost what little respect I had for him YEARS ago and nothing surprises me anymore out of him....

Joe, whenever I get the chance to see Bloomquist race he is usually crying or whining about something. I knew he had protested after this race but had no idea it was taken this far. Just another reason why I will be cheering for anyone else in the field to beat him whenever I see him race. Which is usually only one group of races a year during the winter late model series of races in Tucson. Something tells me it could be interesting to see what happends after his next win, will he be the next in line to take a lie detector test?

Patti

Diggsy 7/14/11 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by IndyBound (Post 241152)
Joe, whenever I get the chance to see Bloomquist race he is usually crying or whining about something. I knew he had protested after this race but had no idea it was taken this far. Just another reason why I will be cheering for anyone else in the field to beat him whenever I see him race. Which is usually only one group of races a year during the winter late model series of races in Tucson. Something tells me it could be interesting to see what happends after his next win, will he be the next in line to take a lie detector test?

Patti

Whenever I get the chance to see Bloomy race, he's usually winning...

Love him or hate him, (there's no middle ground with this fella) he's the master of the mind****. He does and says things on a regular basis to make his own fans alternately scratch their heads or cackle with glee, never mind how polarizing a figure he is to the rest of the late model world. I'm a long, long, looong time fan, but even I have no doubt that while all this was going down, he was up to something of his own. That's just how Black Sunshine rolls.

backitin 7/14/11 1:53 PM

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I could care less about the whining, but the lie detector , *** ? who has money to waste on this crap. I hate the whiners though, Black Sunshine ? Knew a Black Sunshine once, she was a dancin fool.

REH24 7/14/11 1:57 PM

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The old saying "The guy who yells about cheating the loudest is usually the cheater".

REH

Diggsy 7/14/11 2:07 PM

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This morning was the first I'd heard of the lie detector test. Have to admit, I thought it was a joke at first. Then I just chuckled and reminded myself that it was the late models. They've been trying to enforce tire rules for what seems like eons now. People don't talk about who sets fast time at the North/South, they talk about whose tires were impounded in the infield in front of God and everybody. All the ruckus about "tiregate" at Golden Isles a few years ago has outlasted the track. It's gotten to the point where if someone is having an unexpectedly good night, well then they "musta soaked their tars". As serious as the allegations (and health ramifications) can be, listening to the keyboard commandos go at it can be entertaining. Part of me thinks that WoO dragged this out as long as they did just to ramp up hits on their site, especially considering it involved drivers who aren't even regulars on their tour. The lie detector test, though, is the *** moment of the week so far...

apexonephoto 7/14/11 3:03 PM

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I thought it was a joke as well. I guess since a small potatoes $30,000 to win late model purse is nearly unheard of in non-wing, it would be hard to understand! Before you jump down my socialist Canadian throat, I'm just giving you guys a hard time! I think the polygraph is stupid, apparently it's used in Bassmaster's and body building competitions as well. Smells too much like wrestling tabloid TV and entertainment then racing. I'd say protesting tires is totally fine.

The race was at Lernerville, PA.

Diggsy 7/14/11 3:13 PM

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I'm a-ok with protesting if you think someone cheated to beat you. If you're protesting just to raise a stink or because of sour grapes, then beans on ya.

Wrench Turner 7/14/11 3:36 PM

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My question is why was the lie detector even necessary? The photoionization detectors that they use on the tires to detect softening compounds are pretty much fool proof. A serious *** moment in the world of racing is indeed correct. :15:

Diggsy 7/14/11 4:28 PM

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You know, I've heard stories of the sniffers being beat. But lie detectors can be beat, too. And WTH were they gonna do if the tire test came back clean and Iceman failed the lie detector? Or vice versa? What then? Which do you believe, the science or the man? Dangerous ground to be treading on.

illiNOISE 7/14/11 4:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Diggsy (Post 241230)
As serious as the allegations (and health ramifications) can be, listening to the keyboard commandos go at it can be entertaining. Part of me thinks that WoO dragged this out as long as they did just to ramp up hits on their site, especially considering it involved drivers who aren't even regulars on their tour. The lie detector test, though, is the *** moment of the week so far...

Of course the WoO is dragging this out for the publicity; how often do we disscuss a WoO Late Model race on this forum?

Diggsy 7/14/11 6:39 PM

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Originally Posted by illiNOISE (Post 241263)
Of course the WoO is dragging this out for the publicity; how often do we disscuss a WoO Late Model race on this forum?

For those of us who like both open wheel AND late models, I'd say we don't discuss nearly enough. But that's just me :)

JstAbvVMC 7/14/11 6:55 PM

Did WOO "require" that he take the test, or was given "the option" to take the test to help shut up the cry baby!! That would be my first question. Giving an option or at the request of the accused is a lot differant then demanding. JMO
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raceway video 7/14/11 7:32 PM

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"what would they have done if he didnt take the test"



REH24 7/14/11 8:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Wrench Turner (Post 241246)
My question is why was the lie detector even necessary? The photoionization detectors that they use on the tires to detect softening compounds are pretty much fool proof. A serious *** moment in the world of racing is indeed correct. :15:

Not "a serious *** moment" how about "a serious WWF moment"....

REH

jim goerge 7/15/11 1:52 AM

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Originally Posted by apexonephoto (Post 241236)
I thought it was a joke as well. I guess since a small potatoes $30,000 to win late model purse is nearly unheard of in non-wing, it would be hard to understand! Before you jump down my socialist Canadian throat, I'm just giving you guys a hard time! I think the polygraph is stupid, apparently it's used in Bassmaster's and body building competitions as well. Smells too much like wrestling tabloid TV and entertainment then racing. I'd say protesting tires is totally fine.

The race was at Lernerville, PA.

Here we go again all you guys telling me pro wrestling is fake ;)

bige 44t 7/15/11 10:09 AM

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Here we go again all you guys telling me pro wrestling is fake ;)

What??!!??


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