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Danny Burton 10/18/12 11:42 AM

USAC/L. Jones penalty
 
APPEALS PANEL RESCINDS LEVI JONES PENALTIES


The Chief Judge of the USAC Court of Appeals has rescinded the penalties assessed to driver Levi Jones and car entrant Tony Stewart Racing as a result of an incident arising from the August 25 “Sprint Car Smackdown” USAC AMSOIL National Sprint Car race at Kokomo, Ind. which also involved driver Jon Stanbrough.

The appeal held October 17 and chaired by Chief Appellate Judge Jeff Stoops dealt with penalties originally assessed according to guidelines of USAC competition rule 10.28 regarding unsportsmanlike conduct.

As a result of the appeal, both the 25-point National Sprint Car entrant penalty assessed to Tony Stewart Racing and the 25-point National Sprint Car driver penalty assessed to Levi Jones have been rescinded.

The panel reviewed facts and information available to them. Based on the lack of material and or video evidence to review along with statements made by USAC Officials in charge of competition for the event, the panel agreed that a penalty judging intentional driver conduct during competition could not be enforced.

racefan20 10/18/12 11:55 AM

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Wonder if it would have went down like that had he not been done for the year with the surgery.

sprinterfan 10/18/12 12:21 PM

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Shocker..............

Mud Packer 10/18/12 12:45 PM

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The last line of the press release says it all. "the panel agreed that a penalty judging intentional driver conduct during competition could not be enforced". USAC may as well take the rule out of the rule book as it is only a waste of paper and ink. The precedence has been set and now the drivers will have to take that into consideration and handle it themselves.:31:

Dirtfan 10/18/12 12:55 PM

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Wow, couldn't see that coming:17: Is this the same Stoops of Stoops Freightliner Truck Sales?

Mud Packer 10/18/12 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 306704)
Wow, couldn't see that coming:17: Is this the same Stoops of Stoops Freightliner Truck Sales?

One and the same.

sprinterfan 10/18/12 1:04 PM

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This makes no sense to me at all... Why is USAC stirring this up again?? He got penalized,,, and (some) people moved passed it. Why not keep the penalty enforced and let the issue go away?? Levi's season was done anyway!

USAC sucks. You all better stay consistent is all I'm saying. If the worst driver in the series dumps your poster child next year, and theres no video proving it... Better stay consistent...

Absolutely blows me away.... That was BY FAR the ugliest move toward another driver I had ever seen. Lack of evidence?? Ask anyone, hell Levi admitted to it. Are you kidding me. How many times have you seen Jon Stanbrough get pissed?

cws9 10/18/12 1:08 PM

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So that means Robert Ballou is the only one that has been penalized in the last how many years?

Pat O'Connor Fan 10/18/12 1:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cws9 (Post 306710)
So that means Robert Ballou is the only one that has been penalized in the last how many years?

I believe this states (but not "for the record" however) that Robert's problem would not have been a problem at all if he had been driving for Tony Stewart or if he had been a past champion in USAC sprints.

aka Liz 10/18/12 1:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Pat O'Connor Fan (Post 306713)
I believe this states (but not "for the record" however) that Robert's problem would not have been a problem at all if he had been driving for Tony Stewart or if he had been a past champion in USAC sprints.

Ha, great post! Why am I not surprised at USAC's action in this case...pretty darn sad.

koolaid89 10/18/12 1:38 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Danny Burton (Post 306690)
The panel reviewed facts and information available to them. Based on the lack of material and or video evidence to review along with statements made by USAC Officials in charge of competition for the event, the panel agreed that a penalty judging intentional driver conduct during competition could not be enforced.

So they expect Dean to catch every incident with ONE camera... No pressure big guy!

Dirtfan 10/18/12 1:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer (Post 306705)
One and the same.

Maybe a possible purchase of several new rigs influenced Stoops decision.:18:

Mud Packer 10/18/12 1:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 306721)
Maybe a possible purchase of several new rigs influenced Stoops decision.:18:

I doubt it.:19:

Infinity Shocks 10/18/12 1:58 PM

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my question would be did mr jones stand to gain any point positions in year end points by usac changing their mind about the penalty?

DonMoore10 10/18/12 2:00 PM

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I am just overwelmed by this decision..............

Wayne Davis 10/18/12 2:13 PM

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Well i'll be a suck ass mule!!

richie 10/18/12 2:18 PM

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With this move, Levi Jones now moves from 6th to 5th in the USAC Sprint Car point standings.

Plus, it moves the #20 car, which is in 2nd place, 25 points closer to the #7 team for the Owner's Point Championship.

Avon Open Wheel fan 10/18/12 3:05 PM

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Maybe WWE can by USAC and bring back Thursday night racing on TV and call in Thursday night smackdown.

UberKuhlMan 10/18/12 3:11 PM

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Sounds like there's some money being thrown around behind the scenes. USAC continues to kick themselves in the teeth.

streetglider 10/18/12 4:05 PM

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More USUC bull$hit !!!! I wonder if they will go back to 1993 and rescind Steve Butler's (unjust) penalty? Oh wait a minute....they already ran him off with a sour taste in his mouth!

treecitytornado 10/18/12 4:41 PM

They did it to Kevin Thomas over just words said.

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dusty tracks 10/18/12 6:52 PM

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they must have forgot that he trashed 2 cars!!!

Sprintcarfanatic 10/18/12 7:47 PM

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I wasn't there (At the hearing) but remember what I said & got hammered for by Funk & Vukie???
Sprinterfan, Would Levi's season been over If this didn't happen. If his neck was that bad it should have been taken care of earlier because all it would have taken is a wrong hit or bump & he could have been in a wheel chair or dead.
Ya all don't seem so hip on ol Tony all of a sudden.

PJ Wright 10/18/12 8:00 PM

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In defense of USAC, let me say...ummm....well.....ummm, gee look at the time, gotta run.

TommyTipover 10/18/12 8:04 PM

Don't spend the money all in one place Kevin Miller

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Dirtfan 10/18/12 8:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mud Packer (Post 306722)
I doubt it.:19:

Stranger things have happened Mike!

Tumey's 55 10/18/12 8:17 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Sprintcarfanatic (Post 306764)
I wasn't there (At the hearing) but remember what I said & got hammered for by Funk & Vukie???
Sprinterfan, Would Levi's season been over If this didn't happen. If his neck was that bad it should have been taken care of earlier because all it would have taken is a wrong hit or bump & he could have been in a wheel chair or dead.
Ya all don't seem so hip on ol Tony all of a sudden.

Not sure what your point is. If you are saying the USAC penalty is why he ended his season, that doesn't make any sense. The penalty was just reversed, if his neck was not the issue then he could have kept racing and been in the thick of the points battle. Perhaps his neck issue progressively got worse and finally reached the point where surgery had to be done, as was reported. I think the black helicopters should remain in the hanger.

Sprintcarfanatic 10/18/12 8:46 PM

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Tumey's 55, There were a few apparently that knew Levi had neck issue's but I didn't & I'm sure some others didn't know about the neck until after this happened at Kokomo.

Mud Packer 10/18/12 9:35 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Dirtfan (Post 306768)
Stranger things have happened Mike!

I guess my hint of sarcasm missed badly. I agree totally.

SDHill89 10/18/12 10:04 PM

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USAC has a Chief Appellate Judge and a USAC Court of Appeals?

Mud Packer 10/18/12 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SDHill89 (Post 306785)
USAC has a Chief Appellate Judge and a USAC Court of Appeals?

Oh yeah. Rumor has it that Judge Joe Brown presides with Dean Wormer & Wilhelm Klink serving on the Court of Appeals.:17::19:

Eatin Dirt 10/18/12 10:30 PM

Maybe the neck was in bad shape and after the deal at Kokomo Levi feared there was a payback coming and didn't want to risk more injury to the neck. Just a thought and no I don't think Jon S would look for a payback on that way. Just throwing a different angle at it.

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jjones776 10/19/12 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by sprinterfan (Post 306707)
This makes no sense to me at all... Why is USAC stirring this up again?? He got penalized,,, and (some) people moved passed it. Why not keep the penalty enforced and let the issue go away?? Levi's season was done anyway!

USAC sucks. You all better stay consistent is all I'm saying. If the worst driver in the series dumps your poster child next year, and theres no video proving it... Better stay consistent...

Absolutely blows me away.... That was BY FAR the ugliest move toward another driver I had ever seen. Lack of evidence?? Ask anyone, hell Levi admitted to it. Are you kidding me. How many times have you seen Jon Stanbrough get pissed?

So you heard levi admit it? I don't think you did.

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sprinterfan 10/19/12 1:02 PM

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your joking right....? :15:

jjones776 10/19/12 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by sprinterfan (Post 306849)
your joking right....? :15:

Nope. I'm serious. Did you hear him say it?

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Hamby812 10/20/12 12:08 AM

Just saying what I heard. But we have a friend of the family very close to Levi. And he told him he was not going to race full time any more. He was going to run one of the family owned rural kings and race from time to time....

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Melmo 10/20/12 3:13 AM

Wow!!!

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captrat 10/23/12 9:40 PM

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Don't forget to blame them for the troubles in the Middle East, the weather, and the flu this winter!

JON'S MOM 10/24/12 9:00 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by jjones776 (Post 306803)
so you heard levi admit it? I don't think you did.

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jon could have lost his life
i think this was serious cant beleive they gave his points back..

midget96 10/25/12 9:56 AM

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I wasn't there so I have no opinion on what happened. But does any thing that "Chief Appellate Judge Jeff Stoops" does surprise anyone. He and the board is letting Miller run USAC in the ground.


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