Duquion midget race March 15th
 

This will be a open midget show with Chilibowl type rules. Should be fun.
Has a progressive payout. $1000 to win, $100 to start, based on a 20 car field

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Johnny

Wonder if they will let the chain drive cars compete with the Midgets? Since it is Chili Bowl Rules.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I was told they are having A separate race for chain Drives. Not sure on.the payout yet. I know it depends on the car count.

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Jay

We would rather race with the Midgets>Johnny's $1000,00 sound OK to me.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

I spoke with the promoter about this and he seemed pretty set on Running separately He stated that the midget drivers wanted to run alone. Once I get the info on the lightning Sprints Payout I will post it on here.

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And they want us to support them to help bring up the car count in a struggling division>>>>GO FIGURE???

They sure don't need our car;):)>>>>> I guess they can just keep on "Playing with Themselves":15:

IT SURE IS FUNNY WHEN EVERYBODY TURNS INTO A "guest"

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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Doubt Johnny's one of the ones who don't want the chain drives included; his new BAM series is running rules almost identical to the IMRA. Wouldn't be prudent to tick off any potential members...

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Jim

I don't think Johnny had anything to do with it.

That $1000.00 Pay Out doesn't justify us renting one of them other "Black 37" cars to come down and race.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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I don't think so either, I just wonder who "the midget drivers" are that "wanted to run alone" when there's a sizable pool in Illinois who mix it up with the Linked-in all the time, and welcome us with open arms.

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Jim

Is the reason people keep sending me these e-mails wanting me to get linked-in to them because of my race car??:)

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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That's gotta be it...:31:

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So this is like a Powri midget on the track with other kinds of midgets? What kind of show is this?

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Mile

At a $1000.00 to win and a $100.00 to start. I wouldn't look for too many "Top Midgets" or drivers down there. They cost too much to race.

One other thing>>>tracks that are set up for Go Karts do not lend themselves well to Midget Racing>

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

:)

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Dad,
I just wonder if...........the true midget purist (snobs) are sceeeerd that a chain drive non traditional money sense race car would just hand them an old fashioned butt whoopin?
I've caught some flack from the snobs about running our car with the chain gang!
I will speak for Johnny, he's all for the chain gang as am I
I wish them luck on the 15th
Jeff Palazzolo

What type of lap tymes did powri run at the mini mile ???

Well, I guess if they want to run by themselves so be it. I suppose I'll just keep mine in the barn.

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I can not find any times from the POWRI race. We had times since we used transponders last weekend. It would be interesting to see the times.

Clauson ran a 9.69 second lap and Bell ran 9.82 at the PowrI Midget race in December!

What was the tymes Saturday

I find it funny that last race at duquoin you guys didn't allow national midgets and that was fine but if they don't allow chain drive cars it's wrong lol. The way I understand this guy is trying to run mini sprints and midgets in two classes. The real only reason a midget wouldn't wanna run with mini sprints is because the mini sprints sometimes run such a slow pace under caution that it's hard for midgets to run that slow with no clutch and transmission.

I'm trying to figure out this going too slow with a lightning sprint situation. I'm usually having to slip the clutch / ride the crap out of my brakes with my car running against chain or shaft driven cars. When did this start becoming a new issue? Most the issue is the driver getting fancy on trying to get a holeshot going green. If only anyone outside my helmet could only hear the expletive bleeps going on within it on the last pace lap prior taking the green flag. 😁

Patrick
We had an issue with the pace being too slow when a 1000 cc car was pacing the field, with the direct drive we cannot slip the clutch
So it's on the brakes all the way around under yellow
Plus we cannot pull the clutch in to clean it out before we go green
It makes for a terrible start for the direct drive cars
Of course if the officials would have lined things up in a timely manner it might not have been as big of an issue
We think on a larger track it might not be an issue at all
Jeff Palazzolo

I'll agree completely there. Getting the field lined up and going quickly could've been better no doubt. As far as the clutch, not gonna fib.. I was one of the ones clearing out the pipes before the green.... 😉

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Haha, I have no problems with you clearing the pipes, don't blame you
We burned the brakes out of our car because one of the Kenyon cars just had to go so slow, it ruined our night. It is what it is, I was hoping we could just pick the pace up a little.

Stinks to hear about the brakes. My night was done after getting punted the 1st lap of the semi and being bumped on the front end by an innocent bystander with nowhere to go. I agree about the pace. I know someone got a few bumps from me because of the pace going on. Didn't mean to, but the brakes only can do so much.

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Montpelier has a rule that chain-drive cars have to keep pace with the shafties or they go to the back (I would assume they would apply that rule to Kenyons as well). Of course, that's hard to gauge when a moto-mill is on point, but if you have an astute observer on the "race-control" side of the Raceceiver frequency, a simple "pick it up" command should make it a non-issue.

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I might add that Montpelier's "All Skate" philosophy brings together everything from Top-tier (Esslinger, Fontana) and older (Gaerte, Brayton) National, to Stock-motor (Focus, Ecotec, Honda) to 1000cc and up Chain and Kenyon Midgets, and I've not heard a single complaint from anyone.

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My apologies for my recent rant.:) My apologies also for the lite foot pace setters. They apparently lacked knowledge about the difference in cars and maybe a little racing curtsey also. I have heard of one cycle power car driver say that if he was on the pole that he would set the pace at his own speed. This does not sound like a very knowledgeable or considerate race driver to me. Had I been in a shaft drive car using my 20>20 hind site I would have just got out of line and demonstrated a more suitable pace speed. When stopped I would attempt to explain to an official what the problem was.:)

I would like to see these cars race together. Like in any other kind of racing we have several cars and drivers that would have no problem racing in a National Midget race indoors and being competitive, (we were just a tick over 10 second laps last week on our DAQ). We are also blessed with other combinations of cars and drivers that aren't quite ready for "Prime Time".

We wish you guys good luck in the race on the 15th, and hope you pull a bunch of cars. This is your time to shine.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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My 6 year old was running 11.0-11.2's in the Junior Sprint as a comparison also. Unfortunately our race was cut from 25, to 11 laps for no apparent reason. That reason alone will make it extremely difficult for me to ever attend another race there...

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This race has a different promoter so not sure what the format will be. I think what happened was and I hope this does not happen this time is too many classes. The promoter has to pay a hourly fee to the state for the track workers. He also has to pay for emergency crews and other personnel on a hourly fee. The cost to run a race like this is not cheap and unlike a promoter at a regular weekly track they are not getting a large amount of fans. Plus they are not getting one dime from the concession stand. Then throw in the lack of sponsors this means they pretty much have to make all of their money off the back gate. Last weekends race was pretty much a break even event after talking with the promoter. It is no wonder we have so few of chances to race in the winter. I know this is not the ideal purse and fees to race during the winter but at least we are finally getting some chances to race during the winter.

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Micro

The 600 were clocking low to mid 10's also. Which car was yours? I like to watch them kids it's pretty amazing how fast they catch on. Twenty five laps does sounds a bit much for Jr. Sprints?

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

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The P1 car was ours. 25 laps was what we were told. I would have been ok with 20 or maybe even 15, but 11 was a kick in the teeth after I paid $105 to race...

There was a race just this weekend that include chain driven cars and for whatever reason they (chain driven cars) chose not to support it.....but that was ok cause the stock production Division-2 midgets put on one hell'va show all 3 nights

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Is there a flyer with more information or a website with details? I'm trying to figure out what time this will start as it is a school night. Thank you in advance.

Dan Nelson

They have set up a Facebook page with the info on it. Think hotlaps starts at 10am. The Facebook page is Open Wheel Racing at Southern Illinois Center.

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face book page again

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It also appears per the Facebook post that lightning sprints are still on but the midgets may not be. There seems to be some insurance issues on the midgets. More info is supposed to be coming out soon on the new format for the race.

Any way of finding out the 1000 payout ??