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robert gatten 7/8/14 7:19 PM

If you want driver shirts you will have to get them in the pits at Gas City , or wait until you get to other tracks where there allowed to be sold in the grandstand areas.

Charles Nungester 7/8/14 7:27 PM

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Buy a 1 dollar 50/50 ticket at the pit gate, You can roam the pits at GC till drivers meeting. Buy your shirts, Meet the racers if they ain't too busy. :)

Bdarland 7/8/14 7:56 PM

We have been told that we will be able to sell drivers shirts inside the grandstand area for Sprint Week, no apparel trailers allowed. Unless this has changed, please stop by and see us. We will have NEW Dave Darland shirts and merchandise available.

Thank You in advance to the Gas City officials and owners for allowing us to do this.

Tim Clauson 7/8/14 7:58 PM

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I thought this all got sorted last weekend and they were going to allow the drivers to set up 10X10 tents and sell in the grandstand area.

Being told not going to happen now.

robert gatten 7/8/14 9:34 PM

we were told we could set up 10x10 in grandstand area too but were told today that is NOT TRUE when we called to make sure. Told it's NO. Better call track BDarland . Let us know your findings.

wtvwrocks 7/9/14 12:43 AM

We were also told at first we could but now have been told they changed their mind and no shirt sales at GC in pits only. Thankful other tracks are supporting the drivers.

Jerry Shaw 7/9/14 1:10 AM

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This is a track that was already in serious trouble. They could use support from where ever than can get it. With a move like this, it's almost like they're trying to accelerate their own demise.

Jerry

Bill Gardner 7/9/14 2:55 AM

C'mon... Don't start opening night or any night of the greatest event in Indiana like this. Sure, you can force fans to buy the $1 ticket for 50/50 to be able to enter the pits so they can buy drivers merchandise but you lose part of the exciting atmosphere that is Indiana Sprint Week.

Terrible decision.

Birdsboro 7/9/14 4:38 AM

Tshirts behind the grandstands.... where do you think you are? Pennsylvania? Lol

triplexxx 7/9/14 5:50 AM

All I can say is bring Jigs and Phil back. Its not been a good year for the track.

davidm 7/9/14 8:10 AM

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Every tee shirt sold in free advertisement to the team yes, but also to the tracks were these teams race. Why would anyone want to place an obstacle here?

4th turn fan 7/9/14 8:20 AM

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Amen Bill.....

Come on,,,,this is the week we have all been waiting on....

PLEASE enjoy it for what it is...

You will have 6 other chances this week to buy a shirt...

$1 for a pit pass....You can't get a deal that good,,,,,even at Wal mart...

Let's go racin'...:23:

Charles Nungester 7/9/14 8:31 AM

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Don't know if they still do this but used to be when the sprint feature ended and all the cars got back to the pits. You could enter the pits before the other features ran if you stayed in the sprint area.

Birdsboro 7/9/14 8:47 AM

Can I take my 10y/o in the pits early? Do I need to buy her a 50/50 too?

wilbur 7/9/14 9:32 AM

Pretty sure u can take 10 yo in pits. just buy him a 50/50.

Justigit 7/9/14 11:29 PM

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I agree with Bill G. on this. Fans can get by cheap for the buck 50/50 pit deal if they want a shirt or autograph. But I think it kinda hurts the drivers / owners the most as they use that T-shirt money to get on down the road to the next race and maybe grab a burger on the way during Sprint Week:32:.

on_the_edge 7/9/14 11:34 PM

Another reason a lot of people start their sprint week at kokomo on Saturday. Gas city is going to have to step up their game and by taking away from drivers T-shirt sales and fans chance to buy them is not going to help their cause.

#1Brad Kuhn Fan 7/10/14 7:06 AM

Its a shame to see such a good track get so much criticism. In 10 years when the track ain't there. Not being able to buy driver shirts won't sound so bad.

Charles Nungester 7/10/14 9:01 AM

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Im going to go with Devin on this one. Mel's gonna do what Mel thinks is right, even if it isn't in some people minds. The track makes things easy by the pit entry for a dollar before the drivers meeting and letting people in the sprint pit right after feature. No other track does that.

While I support teams and their efforts to sell shirts. It's amazing to me beings as the nail is already started. They're ready to drop the hammer.

When Mel's done, the track is most likely done as well.
We'll just start sprintweek at kokomo. Well next year its kokomo getting the bashing and so on and so on.

I'll be at GC supporting its future, Hope you are too.
Chuck, who's had his dislikes about several tracks and have come to the conclusion, Things like this "Is what it is" deal with it or not.

Several drivers have online stores as well, check and see. Delivered to your door!

PAW 7/10/14 9:07 AM

Ya'll have all week to buy t - shirts quit crying about Gas City.

Charles Nungester 7/10/14 9:11 AM

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Seen Mrs. Ballou walking up and down the ticket line a couple years ago at Bloomington with her T shirt trailer (Big Suitcase)

Where there's a will, there's a way :)

cwfan08 7/10/14 11:01 AM

I agree with Devin as well..there are far more things to worry about than if I can buy a shirt or not..what other track let's you buy a 50/50 and go pit side to see the cars..talk to the drivers/crews..and buy a shirt if you want too..I support the drivers efforts 100% and most are scrapping to get from one night to the next but I go to a race track to see a race not to worry about if I can buy a shirt or not..the track is getting very negative criticism via social media and one track has already closed from it. I for one don't want to see another close..I hope everyone enjoys their sprint week..and hope one doesn't base missing a race on no merch stuff..

Tk

duel 7/10/14 2:41 PM

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Must go to opening night of sprint week and support I-69 speedway. Fun place to go, great racing many more times than not.

on_the_edge 7/10/14 2:55 PM

It's the principal of the fact that the track is not supporting the racers. It is isw so of course cars are going to show up but what happens the rest of the year? Without cars the track has nothing to offer and attendance drops. Gas city needs to examine their product they are offering and work with the racers not against them, some drivers make their money off shirts and the convenience of having them by the gate as fans walk in helps boost sales. This is not about buying a shirt in the end but about the track supporting the people who put the show on for them.

Jerry Shaw 7/10/14 3:47 PM

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Originally Posted by on_the_edge (Post 383022)
It's the principal of the fact that the track is not supporting the racers. It is isw so of course cars are going to show up but what happens the rest of the year? Without cars the track has nothing to offer and attendance drops. Gas city needs to examine their product they are offering and work with the racers not against them, some drivers make their money off shirts and the convenience of having them by the gate as fans walk in helps boost sales. This is not about buying a shirt in the end but about the track supporting the people who put the show on for them.

That's the truth. And people here on IOW, that follow this stuff as close as we all do tend to think that everybody must go to the pits. The majority of the people in the stands are more casual fans, that never go to the pits. A lot of the people with small kids are among them. A few years ago, I was walking around by the concession stand at The Burg. I had a Bryan Clauson t shirt on. This lady with a girl who was probably 10 or 11 stopped me and asked where I got my shirt at, because her kid really wanted one. I said you have to get them in the pits. She asked me if I was going back there again tonight, because they never go to the pits. I said yes, she gave me (a perfect stranger) a twenty dollar bill and to make a long story short, that was a pretty happy kid when she got her BC t shirt. That's the people those guys would like access to. And some of them are local fans. I know it's hard for some of us to believe EVERYBODY doesn't go to 70-80 races a year, but there is such a thing as a local race fan, that might only go to one of these races.

Jerry

kasey2020 7/10/14 3:55 PM

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Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is the negative part of letting them sell shirts? Why does the track even care? It's not like someone is going to not buy a Gas City shirt because the drivers are out there with theirs. Is there a reason that tracks wouldn't allow this? Like I said, I may just be missing something.

ThePurple73 7/10/14 3:56 PM

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Good grief, let the drivers sell their shirts. If that is the worry of being profitable over shirt sales then....well...hmm. I don't want to have to go to the pits to buy a shirt, if there is oil or grease with in a 100 yards I will step in it and track it in the car, every time.

I usually try to buy several shirts from all that has them. Make it easy to be a fan and show support.

fish 7/10/14 4:02 PM

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Charles Nungester 7/10/14 4:33 PM

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I in no way was trying to start anything here or tell anyone their view was wrong.

I just tried to inform some on how they could get T shirts if they wanted one.

Not going to make it now anyway, Won't get car back till afternoon tomorrow at four times the cost I thought the repair would be. See everyone Sunday!
Really wanted to give Susan a Birthday Hug tomorrow but I'll give her two to make up for it :)

BrentTFunk 7/11/14 6:00 AM

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With the track for sale, and its future in doubt. I am sure Mr Gatten will put his money where his mouth is, and buy the place. Then he can show us how to do it while he makes millions. I am sure that will be more productive than this thread

Rpracing1 7/11/14 7:03 AM

If it is the Race Track own tee shirt sales at the issue here, nothing against any individual track, but I have never bought any shirt that just has a tracks name on it. Bought hundred of drivers shirts though.

Birdsboro 7/11/14 7:35 AM

I will sometimes buy a track shirt if it's a limited opportunity track... Like manzanita or someplace I ain't going to see again for a long time or if at all... The problem with track shirts are they are lame... They oughta get the car of the previous season point champ and runner up and throw them front and back. Make it a condition of the points chase or kick the driver a buck or so out of the price. For point of reference there is a track run by Toby Tobias in kutztown pa... The actiontrackusa.com Anyway... Nobody would buy a shirt so he has Pauch and Bightbill and I thin another guys cars racing on it.... So now you a cool driver shirt and track shirt all in one. Sorry for the ramble but I slept on a lumpy mattress in a cheap hotel in Ohio lol.... On to the middle.......

Charles Nungester 7/11/14 8:20 AM

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Im not aware that Bob did anything but try to help his grandson continue to race for years to come. He only funded a team for years.

But that don't count...........

BrentTFunk 7/11/14 8:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Charles Nungester (Post 383101)
Im not aware that Bob did anything but try to help his grandson continue to race for years to come. He only funded a team for years.

But that don't count...........

It is a proven fact that complaining on social media is detrimental to the sport. An Indiana track just closed last week, and cited that as one of the main reasons. This is his second post complaining about the same subject. Nothing Positive can come from it.

robert gatten 7/11/14 9:19 AM

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[QUOTE=BrentTFunk;383107]It is a proven fact that complaining on social media is detrimental to the sport. An Indiana track just closed last week, and cited that as one of the main reasons. This is his second post complaining about the same subject. Nothing Positive can come from it.[/QUote

Because it's the second time this year that drivers were told they could sell shirts then after everyone is set to sell their told they can't ! THAT is "detrimental to the sport". I'm done

BrentTFunk 7/11/14 12:39 PM

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It is for sale. Show them how it is done

on_the_edge 7/11/14 1:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 383170)
It is for sale. Show them how it is done

I don't think he was telling Mel how to run the place, again the racers are the product that the track is marketing in order to make some kind of profit. If the promoter costs the racers money then what are the chances that these racers come support the track at a weekly show? People needed to be rallying behind the racers and get the promoter to change his mind. Again I will state the racers are all the track has to offer, I don't know to many people who will go stare at a dirt oval and buy a hotdog with nothing going on the track. I guess they could run the water truck around and charge admission for that. Most dirt track racers don't live a glamorous rock star lifestyle, but instead might be eating bologna sandwiches to make it to the track the next week. These guys need all the help and extra promotion they can get and a non supporting promoter of the cause does not help.

BrentTFunk 7/11/14 1:18 PM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by on_the_edge (Post 383174)
I don't think he was telling Mel how to run the place, again the racers are the product that the track is marketing in order to make some kind of profit. If the promoter costs the racers money then what are the chances that these racers come support the track at a weekly show? People needed to be rallying behind the racers and get the promoter to change his mind. Again I will state the racers are all the track has to offer, I don't know to many people who will go stare at a dirt oval and buy a hotdog with nothing going on the track. I guess they could run the water truck around and charge admission for that. Most dirt track racers don't live a glamorous rock star lifestyle, but instead might be eating bologna sandwiches to make it to the track the next week. These guys need all the help and extra promotion they can get and a non supporting promoter of the cause does not help.

I doubt complaining on a message board will help anything, but it can do a lot of damage. When the Miles family steeped down at Bloomington, she said in Sprint Car and Midget that social media was a huge factor in stepping down. My guess is having enough room to provide fro everyone who wanted it is probably the factor in the decision, but that is just a guess.

Charles Nungester 7/11/14 1:34 PM

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Im in agreement that negativity isn't good.

Im only upset I can't make a couple races I'd planned on making. T shirts or not.

Have fun Hope the track does well as they lost Midget Week and I hope the Racers manage to sell lots of T shirts regardless.

IndySprintCar 7/11/14 3:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BrentTFunk (Post 383177)
I doubt complaining on a message board will help anything, but it can do a lot of damage. When the Miles family steeped down at Bloomington, she said in Sprint Car and Midget that social media was a huge factor in stepping down.

It IS a huge pain to listen to customer complaints thrown from behind the anonymity provided by the online world. But, they are (theoretically, at least) YOUR customers, like it or not.

I've done business long enough to know that a) "customers" are the biggest necessary evil and pain in my butt I've ever ran across and b) without them I wouldn't have a business. So, promoters better just get used to the fact that fans are gonna be the providers of both positive and negative feedback about their tracks. These days, part of their job is to manage that just like they manage hot dog inventory and track prep. It is what it is.

Rudisell from Lawrenceburg has done it better than anyone here in Indiana for several years on this message board as far as I'm concerned.

The ones that don't like it can either a) take their marbles and go home (Miles), b) wither and fall apart (GC?), or c) adapt and adjust ('burg).


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