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jjones752 9/12/13 7:31 PM

Chain, gang?
 
Any Mini-Sprinters out there have any good experience or horror stories attempting to run the #50 Tsubaki chain sold at Grainger? Seems a good bit cheaper than what M/C shops offer ($68 for 10ft), and can be cut to the desired number of links, and as I understand it ANSI 50 is the same as 530...

PatrickMead#13 9/12/13 8:39 PM

I have the Volar Motorsport o-ring chain in my car currently. It has a tensile rating of 9850. Nice quality chain. Have not had any issues with it so far but I clean and lube it religiously so I'm sure that helps....

Big thing with motorcycle chain is it has a designed operational "stretch" in it. That chain from Grainger might not be able to handle the higher speeds of racing and or handle the tensional "stretch" that happens with cycles and racing.

Some people think log chain is log chain but its not. Some is intended for tie down only and has almost no stretch factor. Other chain is for lifting and has a designed stretch for that purpose.

D.L. 122 9/15/13 5:25 PM

no no no no no youll spend more money than its worth just by a good drag bike chain and be done also watch buying 50 chain most cars run #53 sprockets and gears (found all of this through trial and then alot of error lol)

jjones752 9/15/13 7:00 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
Thanks guys. Did a little more research and discovered that 530 M/C chain with the same tensile strength as the Tsubaki 50 chain at Grainger (7,050 lbs.) is rated for 900cc and under, so no dice, even if all other things were equal. Think I'm going with the EK Drag chain from Speedpartz; 10,200 tensile rating and about half the price the local scooter shops are charging for the same thing.

the visitor 9/26/13 5:42 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
We use the EK Drag chain, and have had no issues with it at all.
Good stuff and reasonably priced......we used to use that high dollar from Hyper.....this stuff is just as good...

jjones752 9/26/13 9:32 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
Mine just got here, it's going on tomorrow.

Bradleyracing86 9/27/13 1:23 AM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
If you can use the rivet type master link or tig weld it.. The clips are no good!

Bill84 9/27/13 7:24 AM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
What's wrong with the clips? I've run them for years with no issues whatsoever.

Bill

cws9 9/27/13 9:17 AM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
I ran the clips too with no problems. BUT.....I replaced them frequently. I always felt they would be the weak link...pun intended.

Bradleyracing86 9/27/13 4:19 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
You can run them but I have had problems with them, and haven't had a problem since. If you do run them make sure they are in the right direction.

Bill84 9/27/13 11:03 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
And don't forget to press the outer link tight against the clip to keep it from coming off...

Bill

TQ29m 9/28/13 9:44 AM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
You can also buy an inexpensive, hand held rivet spinner, and roll the pin over, just like a chain saw link, 5 minutes and you're done, no more worries. Bob

PatrickMead#13 9/28/13 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TQ29m (Post 353410)
You can also buy an inexpensive, hand held rivet spinner, and roll the pin over, just like a chain saw link, 5 minutes and you're done, no more worries. Bob

I have the motion pro kit and it IS the way to go. It does the small cam chain all the way up to a 640 chain. Very much worth the price.

Bill84 9/28/13 11:57 AM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
Must be nice to run the same length chain all the time. I don't have enough adjustment in my rear suspension to cover all the different gear sets I need, so I'm stuck with the clips. It's either that or springing for a couple more chains...

Bill

PatrickMead#13 9/28/13 1:18 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
I hear ya there. I only really run 1 track so same length chain isn't a big deal, but I have the same issue with hardly any adjustment for gear changes. It'll be a change for next year because I plan to start traveling more so I may go to clips.

DAD 10/1/13 10:13 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Bradleyracing86 (Post 353304)
You can run them but I have had problems with them, and haven't had a problem since. If you do run them make sure they are in the right direction.




The clip is the weakest link, Once had a guy break one while bringing the field around while he was sitting on the pole, talk about a mess.

Honest Dad himself:6::6:

dirtrack 10/1/13 11:42 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
I run the cheapest stuff on earth. #50 ag chain from Farm & Fleet and use the clip. Haven't lost a chain in 25 years and well over 500 starts. Cost 16 bucks and I replace once at mid season.

Chain breakers often spread the links. Compress the end links back to the right thickness with a channel lock. This will give some clearance and help the clip stay in the groove. I pressure wash the chain weekly, then dry with compressed air. Place a fan on the chain for a few hours, then brush chainsaw bar oil into every pin and roller. I leave the chain on the car while doing all of this.

Sounds crazy, but it has worked for me while running motors up to 1200cc.

Bill84 10/2/13 6:16 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
In reality, the clip on the master link is just a safety device. The press fit of the side plate should be sufficient to hold the link together, unless you have some very strange stuff going on with your suspension. A long time ago I came back in after a feature race, and the clip was missing off the master link. That's when I realized that it's a good idea to press the side plate back out against the clip after it's been installed. Once you do that it's near impossible to get the clip off. You actually have to press the side plate back away from the clip before you can remove it. If your master link is worn to the point the side plate no longer needs to be pressed on, throw it away. You are running with a ticking time bomb.

Bill

DAVE BOOS 8/30/15 10:24 PM

Re: Chain, gang?
 
Anybody ever tig weld a rivet master link on?

Bradleyracing86 8/31/15 2:23 PM

Yes


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